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KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-12-27 21:33:45 UTC
You know I wonder.

With CCP taking feedback from their playerbase so seriously: Do you think Hilmar will see the OPs topic title while browsing through GD and immidiately call for a company excursion to the local library?

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-12-27 21:39:15 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Zainawa Barviainen wrote:

Indeed

Slander for one. No i just found it n though people should know as it's unfair and untrue.

It's pretty disgusting tbfh


It all looks pretty true to me, can you clarify what you see as "unfair and untrue"?

Agreed, everything in there looked pretty true and factual to me. Something can only be libelous if it's false.

No. Even entirely true statements can be libelous if they are intended to harm the reputation of somebody for no other reason but to cause harm. The defenses to slander / libel (now usually referred to as defamation) is substantial truth and in the public interest or good.

If you know your married boss is rooting his secretary and you post it all over the internet, even if he is rooting his secretary, if you broadcast that for the express purpose of causing him harm that could be considered defamation.

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Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-12-27 21:41:15 UTC
To Quote

"Inappropriate Jokes to include: Racism, Sex, Politics, Drugs."

Sounds like the forums nevermind the game \o/ woohoo Lol

CCP involved it will take 10 years to resolve it Roll

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-12-27 21:48:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Shepard Wong Ogeko
Infinity Ziona wrote:
ErrorRon wrote:
I can't really see how someone expressing their views and opinions is breaking any laws. Even if their views and opinions are terrible.

Its libel. Opinions and views are fine but they usually sound like "I think this" or "I think that". Libel is a written statement of fact which damages a reputation. Its usually only defensible if the statement is true or at least mostly true.

Obviously the 'review' contains quite a lot of exaggeration and some outright lies so yeah not exactly lawful to do that, or at least does open the writer up to being sued for damages / apology.



That review is easily 134%, maybe even 172% true.

Most goons are playing Eve from their prison cells with the sole purpose of corrupting the youth.
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-12-27 21:58:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Ila Dace
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Zainawa Barviainen wrote:

Indeed

Slander for one. No i just found it n though people should know as it's unfair and untrue.

It's pretty disgusting tbfh


It all looks pretty true to me, can you clarify what you see as "unfair and untrue"?

Agreed, everything in there looked pretty true and factual to me. Something can only be libelous if it's false.

No. Even entirely true statements can be libelous if they are intended to harm the reputation of somebody for no other reason but to cause harm. The defenses to slander / libel (now usually referred to as defamation) is substantial truth and in the public interest or good.

If you know your married boss is rooting his secretary and you post it all over the internet, even if he is rooting his secretary, if you broadcast that for the express purpose of causing him harm that could be considered defamation.

Since we're throwing around legal-speak around here, the burden of proof for libel is very high. You'd have to prove that this individual was out to hurt CCP as opposed to making an attempt at warning off parents and expressing personal frustration.

Have a look here to see what I mean: http://www.reputationhawk.com/onlinedefamation.html

TFA wrote:
Much of the difficulty that surrounds successfully winning an online defamation case is brought about because the plaintiff must first prove who the publisher or writer of the statement is and, secondly, that the statement is false and written with the intention of causing damage.


(Feels like the good 'ole days of Slashdot...)

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Josef Djugashvilis
#26 - 2013-12-27 22:02:40 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
"March 10, 2009" was when the customer review was created.

OP needs to chillax. Is chillax still a cool word? Ah hell, given how the OP is concerned with things from five years ago, I'm pretty sure that chillax will be fresh in his mind.



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Brusanan
Sons of Seyllin
Pirate Lords of War
#27 - 2013-12-27 22:10:34 UTC
Zainawa Barviainen wrote:
Um

Yeh this link

CCP should get amazon to take this down

Or sue amazon for allowing people to post this drivel

This breaks several UK laws.

Zain

Amazon doesn't take down reviews.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#28 - 2013-12-27 22:11:47 UTC
After consideration, I think that review is a stealthy bit of viral marketing from CCP.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Smendrik Von'Smendle
HighSecers United
#29 - 2013-12-27 22:15:18 UTC
Goons aren't all bad. Someone show him that guy from Goons singing that song maybe that will convince him hes wrong!





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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#30 - 2013-12-27 22:20:00 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Zainawa Barviainen wrote:

Indeed

Slander for one. No i just found it n though people should know as it's unfair and untrue.

It's pretty disgusting tbfh


It all looks pretty true to me, can you clarify what you see as "unfair and untrue"?

Agreed, everything in there looked pretty true and factual to me. Something can only be libelous if it's false.


pretty much this


I don't know that I would agree that "CCP are jerks...", "CCP intentionally exploits a loophole...", or "CCP communicates and promotes a sexual, perverted, profane...".

The rest seems fairly factual and within my own experience, but not that I think any of it is bad. However it does take maturity to be able to understand the things that occur in game and this review doesn't say not to play Eve, it just warns parents not to let their <18 y/o children play it. Even though it's an old review, I don't disagree with what it says except for the attacks on CCP.
Sparkey 'Sparks' Tyrell
Cloakers
#31 - 2013-12-27 22:20:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Sparkey 'Sparks' Tyrell
[quote=Smendrik Von'Smendle]Goons aren't all bad. Someone show him that guy from Goons singing that song maybe that will convince him hes wrong![\quote]
Little Bee's - one of my favorite EvE player contributions. I watched it quite a few times.

Still be better off without Goons in EvE though.
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
#32 - 2013-12-27 22:20:48 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
In Goonswarm, we're all about corrupting children. Twisted


Huh. I thought you all were corrupted children already.Big smile
SFM Hobb3s
Perkone
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-12-27 22:24:50 UTC
Not as funny as the Veet for Men reviews Veet for Men Hair removal, but still a good laugh.
Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
#34 - 2013-12-27 22:25:07 UTC
Zainawa Barviainen wrote:
Um

Yeh this link

CCP should get amazon to take this down

Or sue amazon for allowing people to post this drivel

This breaks several UK laws.

Zain


Free speech, ever hear of it? Your entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong you may be.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#35 - 2013-12-27 22:29:41 UTC
Quote:
The average age in game is high, about 28.


But sadly it doesn't show...


Quote:
A group called SomethingAwful (search internet, CEO is in jail) largely controls the game at the moment and will have access to your child.


*sigh* If only...


Quote:
They run the largest in game entity called GoonSwarm, (youtube, somethingawful forums).

This sick organizations members and CCP are extremely perverted and have inundated the game with inappropriate player content.
Their members have a majority of the Game Manager positions working for CCP in Iceland and ignore all parental complaints.


Well this is kinda true, but they're confusing "Game Manager" with the CSM.

Quote:
Your child will be exposed to:
Inappropriate chat discussions
Inappropriate voice discussions (both the games integrated voice chat, teamspeak, and ventrilo)
Links to porn sites in chat
Sexual stories from other players


Yeah, let me know when you find anyplace on the entire internet where this doesn't happen.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#36 - 2013-12-27 22:31:13 UTC
Quote:
Inappropriate Jokes to include: Racism, Sex, Politics, Drugs.
Your child will "hear" people doing drugs.
Your child will "hear" people drunk.
CCP the maker of eve will broadcast fanfest events through the ingame voice system. Your child will hear inappropriate things during their presentations.
While flying through space systems your child will see and be overwhelmed with content named with inappropriate names. I once saw someone had their ships out and they were all named a modified version of penis.


See above and also, I think Freud would have to say something about half the ships in this game. Welcome to Flying Dildos Online. What else is new?

Quote:
You will not be able to protect your child:
There is "No" in-game method or mechanism to shield your child from this player content.
There are "No" chat filters
The same person that posts links to porn will be talking to your child


True, we all have to deal with the ISDs, but so what?


Quote:
Just for a simple comparison for parents if I had to choose the lesser of two evils between Grand Theft Auto and Eve Online I would have to go with Grand Theft Auto.


That's some fine parenting right there, yep.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
#37 - 2013-12-27 22:49:15 UTC
Quote:
CCP communicates and promotes a sexual, perverted, profane and drunken adult social community in this game.
No they don't. That's ridiculous
Quote:
Bars and Night clubs are coming out within a year.
Reviewer posted this in March 2009. Still waiting for the bars.
Quote:
View their fanfest 2008 dominination video on youtube to real people getting their heads blown off.
WTF? This poster has been dropping Mindflood.

And all three of these samples come from a single line from the review. This review is so hysterically over-the-top, readers probably think it was submitted by CCP's unethical competitor.

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Pix Severus
Empty You
#38 - 2013-12-27 23:17:11 UTC
The review isn't against UK law.

It's a review of a game, and the UK has free speech (with certain limitations). If the reviewer had written "everyone at CCP are murderers" (or similar) then it could be considered libel and CCP would at least have grounds to have the review removed, but it doesn't.

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Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-12-27 23:19:33 UTC
Who trusts a review posted on Amazon? That site has countless positive reviews about how amazing Keurig machines are at making coffee! I got one for Christmas last year and it's so good at brewing coffee that I switched to drinking tea. Online reviews are as useful for judging a product as GD is for learning how to play EvE.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#40 - 2013-12-28 00:00:45 UTC
Zainawa Barviainen wrote:
Um

Yeh this link

CCP should get amazon to take this down

Or sue amazon for allowing people to post this drivel

This breaks several UK laws.

Zain

Speaking of drivel... you sound like a reader of the Daily Mail.

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