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8m SP Newb plan for Nullsec combat sites?
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Decian Cor
Stronghelm Corporation
Solyaris Chtonium
#21 - 2013-12-30 22:50:45 UTC
However you choose to pursue your PvE career, you should definitely pursue it out towards Syndicate. We are really nice to mission runners out here.

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Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-12-30 23:11:53 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Are you using Ishtar? Ogres slaughter even elite frigs due to the Ishtars bonuses (speed and tracking). That's why I use them over lights. Very little aggro and they wtfpwn frigs.


I mostly use a VNI, but use other drone boats depending on circumstances, and I pretty much just use Wasp II to kill everything.

And I just double checked to be sure, and Wasp II has better base tracking (0.429rad/sec) than the Ogre II (0.36rad/sec).

So for Guristas, the Wasp II is hands down better for being faster, tracking better, and doing the best damage type even though it technically does less general damage than Orges.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-12-31 00:23:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Are you using Ishtar? Ogres slaughter even elite frigs due to the Ishtars bonuses (speed and tracking). That's why I use them over lights. Very little aggro and they wtfpwn frigs.


I mostly use a VNI, but use other drone boats depending on circumstances, and I pretty much just use Wasp II to kill everything.

And I just double checked to be sure, and Wasp II has better base tracking (0.429rad/sec) than the Ogre II (0.36rad/sec).

So for Guristas, the Wasp II is hands down better for being faster, tracking better, and doing the best damage type even though it technically does less general damage than Orges.

Yeah I might try them next time I go ninja plexing.


ZynnLee Akkori wrote:
Wait, the general consensus now is to use drones for damage dealing? I have minimal drone skills. I guess it would only take a few days to get up and running (pause for EveMon).... 9 days for Warden I, 4 days for Wasp and Ogre I.

Also, the fit suggested by Ziona; what's the deal with a civilian weapon? And this is in the Ishtar? That's a 25 day train time itself. To go drone I pretty much have to go Gallente.

So.... what if I don't go drones? What sort of setup in Caldari ships?

If you need to use missiles then use a tengu imo. They're kick ass too. If drones you'll need to get all your drone skills up to really get decent damage, for example Drone Interfacing gives you 20% per level damage. So at 5 its like having 10 drones.

The civilian gun - its ammoless, low fitting, low cap, it's used to aggro npcs because if you simply use drones to aggro, the npcs tend to want to kill your drones and ignore you, they get bugged and no longer proximity aggro until they reset, you'll lose a lot of drones without it.

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