EVE General Discussion

Balance in what way?

One could say a 500 million isk Battleship caught and killed (albeit slowly) by a 30 million isk frigate is imbalanced.

Another could say its a result of balance.

My personal opinion is its unreasonable to expect to kill the former with the latter alone. Its reasonable for a good amount of the the latter to kill a battleship but they should expect to take some losses.

You've created a monster.

Again.

LOL

DEATH STAR, was killed by a fighter...

thats the same question they must have asked after pearl harbor. Why can all this small stuff make this big stuff go boom?

They can especially capital ships, you just have to have enough of them.

Quoting some old old Dev statement.

No Ship was ever designed as be a Solopwnmobile.

Just for a little perspective below is the armament for the Iowa-class battleship at various points in their history

Class & type: Iowa-class battleship
Displacement: 45,000 tons
Length: 887 ft 7 in (270.54 m)
Beam: 108.2 ft (33.0 m)
Draft: 28.9 ft (8.8 m)
Speed: 33 knots (61 km/h)
Complement: 1,921 officers and men
Sensors and
processing systems: AN/SPS-49 Air Search Radar
AN/SPS-67 Surface Search Radar
AN/SPQ-9 Surface Search / Gun Fire Control Radar
Electronic warfare
& decoys: AN/SLQ-32
AN/SLQ-25 Nixie Decoy System
8 × Mark 36 SRBOC Super Rapid Bloom Rocket Launchers
Armament: 1943:
9 × 16 in (406 mm) 50 cal. Mark 7 guns
20 × 5 in (127 mm) 38 cal. Mark 12 guns
80 × 40 mm 56 cal. anti-aircraft guns
49 × 20 mm 70 cal. anti-aircraft guns
1968:
9 × 16 in (406 mm) 50 cal Mark 7 guns
20 × 5 in (127 mm) 38 cal Mark 12 guns
1982:
9 × 16 in (406 mm) 50 cal. Mark 7 guns
12 × 5 in (127 mm) 38 cal. Mark 12 guns
32 × BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles
16 × RGM-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship missiles
4 × 20 mm/76 cal. Phalanx CIWS
Armor: Belt: 12.1 in (310 mm)
Bulkheads: 11.3 in (290 mm)
Barbettes: 11.6 to 17.3 in (290 to 440 mm)
Turrets: 19.7 in (500 mm)
Decks: 7.5 in (190 mm)
Aircraft carried: 1943:
2 catapults
3 Vought OS2U Kingfisher Floatplanes
1982:
Deck for up to 4 Helicopters

Its pretty clear that there is simply no possibility that a ship like the New Jersey could have ever been solo'd by a lesser ship in typical eve fashion. Its also pretty clear that the reason why every tom **** and harry nation didnt go out an acquire fleets of battleships to rule the waves was the cost associated with building and maintaining the ships. Even in the battleships heyday, battleships were limited to a handful of nations. In contrast, in eve, just about every toon that is older then six months can afford fleets of battleships. Because of the ease of acquiring isk, there is no realistic barrier against players acquiring and using battleships without limitation. Which is a long winded way of pointing out that while eve is a space simulation that is supposed to have realistic elements, at its core, it is just a game. And as a game it requires some semblance of balance to be fun, which in turn leads the developers to add unrealistic elements such as turret limitations on battleships.

Ofc if I was the developer god and could fashion eve the way i wanted, I would have had battleships be armed more like real world battleships and would have added severe costs, building, maintenance, crew, etc. . . to control the proliferation of such ships in the eve universe.

It just turns of the frigs AB, tracking dissruptor, ewaar, shield booster, repper or whatever else needs energy to run.

Which was a completely stupid statement for Oveur to make given the gameplay of EvE. A super is a solopwnmobilee, created after that statement was made btw, yet even a super wouldn't survive a trip through low solo PvP,ing.

A battleship should be a solopwnmobile vs 1 smaller ship. That's how ships sizes are supposed to work. Why would anyone build a 500 million isk battleship (Mega Fitted) ship when a 30 million isk frigate (Ishkur Fitted) can beat it.

Pure stupidity in terms of logic and investment.

I think we have a contender for best post of the year.