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When to train capitals?

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Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#1 - 2013-12-24 10:51:28 UTC
At 40mil SP, or later?
tgl3
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-12-24 10:59:08 UTC
When you feel you need them or when it would be a benefit to have them trained.

When you have the relevant support skills. This could be 40mil sp. It could be 100...
Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2013-12-24 11:06:04 UTC
never?

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Haygrove
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-12-24 11:08:37 UTC
I hit the 40m SP long ago and was faced with this issue as well. Eventually I decided against it. Really in order for most people to be successful in a capital you have to have other player support. Also another thing you need to consider is the risk/isk factor, Capitals are nice until you need to replace them... as a Capitalship producer (I started out indy and then went combat), I have a lot of repeated customers.

If you have the support and are able to bankroll the endeavor then I guess the only thing left to consider is time. How much of it you have to dedicate to being a capital pilot and deal with all of the issues of low/nullsec. It can pay off if you have time, money, and support, but lacking even one of these really puts you into a huge risk category.

Just my two isk.


~ Haygrove
Boomhaur
#5 - 2013-12-24 11:13:14 UTC
If you have to ask, never. Capitals are more corp/alliance type of a ship and needs support.

Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#6 - 2013-12-24 11:14:51 UTC
When youve run out of SUbcap ships you like to fly. Train caps.(if you think flying caps would be enjoyable)
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-12-24 11:22:41 UTC
Boomhaur wrote:
If you have to ask, never. Capitals are more corp/alliance type of a ship and needs support.

This.

Unless you're in a corp/alliance that makes use of them, you're better off with just subcaps.
Davon Mandra'thin
Das Collective
#8 - 2013-12-24 11:22:57 UTC
Using capitals is an incredibly niche area. Unless you have strong reasons to use them, don't bother. It also really depends on what area of space your going to be fighting in and what size gangs you will be fighting in.

There seems to be massively increasing trend of using Black Ops drops in low and NPC null. Probably because of the cyno jammer.
Amber Kurvora
#9 - 2013-12-24 11:27:03 UTC
It's up to your play style. I've got no near term plans to train for capitals, and I'm at the 50m + skill points mark. I just don't see the point with all the shiny sub cap stuff to play with. Maybe once I've trained a few battleships to V, and have HACS and all the T3s trained up?
Magna Mortem
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-12-24 11:28:40 UTC
Don't listen to people. The earlier you start, the earlier you sit in one. Support skills are important, yes, but you can train them THEN too! Just don't forget to tell us when you're ready then we can gather up in lowsec and celebrate together!
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-12-24 11:31:24 UTC
Just remember that probably the most embarrassing thing you can do in Eve is lose your cap to a hot-drop whilst ratting in null.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#12 - 2013-12-24 11:33:56 UTC
Garnoo wrote:
never?


Hmm, but it looks like subcaps will be old hat in Eve 2014. I don't want to be left behind when everyone else flies off in their naglfar.
Carnaby Wakefield
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-12-24 11:35:10 UTC
Huge chuck of wasted skill points unless your going to pvp alot in capital fleets.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-12-24 13:05:51 UTC
Carnaby Wakefield wrote:
Huge chuck of wasted skill points unless your going to pvp alot in capital fleets.

Well, not wasted, but this. I trained really early and now I have excellent competencies in carriers and dreadnoughts that I neither use nor can afford.

Dodixie > Hek
Careby
#15 - 2013-12-24 13:36:57 UTC
Wait, which alt are we talking about?

At least one of them will never run out of subcap skills to train, so for him or her the answer is never. But...

"There is another."
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#16 - 2013-12-24 13:38:16 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Just remember that probably the most embarrassing thing you can do in Eve is lose your cap to a hot-drop whilst ratting in null.


Actually, its be in TEST and try to gank a Blops in Null with a four man fleet and watch him walk away from it laughing

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-12-24 13:40:09 UTC
When you realize you'll actually have use for them/become more valuable to your corp with them.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#18 - 2013-12-24 14:14:24 UTC
So no one here uses there carriers to move ****? Courier providers must love you guys!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2013-12-24 14:17:10 UTC
Get training for a nag already, we are truly in Capitals online.
Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
#20 - 2013-12-24 14:25:33 UTC
Black Panpher wrote:
So no one here uses there carriers to move ****? Courier providers must love you guys!


I was thinking the same but didn't want to sound like TOO much of the carebear that I often am.
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