Market Discussions

toure missing one line:
Cost of materials using bpc's before patch...

bpc mineral quotes after rebalancing ships usually changes...

https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/0/28665/-1/5/-1/5

Try a process decryptor. cost per successful invention, around 36 million.

sells for around 64 million more than the material cost, so that's around a 28 million profit., with all components bought from the market.

Around 383k isk per hour (adjusted to a 24 hour production cycle. So 2 days per ship)

More profit could be squeezed out of some of the components, though some are selling below cost right now.

this is where people are losing money. you have to take into account the market value of the BPC not the cost of making it.

Perhaps you need an education in supply and demand, value is dictated by what a another player is willing to pay for it. Not what you think it should be worth.

Thus if people are willing to spend 80 mil on a Vargur BPC, then it's worth 80 mil and that value should be considered in the manufacturing cost. Otherwise you're throwing isk out the window because your ignorant of the actual value and are following your small minded perception of value.

If you want to continue basing your sell price on the cost of invention rather than the value of the BPC, then fine it's your loss. You're letting emotion dictate what you should do instead of making a logical intelligent business minded decision. Invention is chance based, so you make sure that's taken into consideration as well if you're calculating it on a 100% success rate then again, you're only costing yourself money.

but do what you want the cheaper the ships are the happier the players who buy them are. I'm out of that market and making much higher profit margins in other T2 ships now. I don't mind players saturating markets by the time that happens I've long made my money.

There are three values you can assign to a T2 BPC.

What it costs you to make it. (I'll admit, the numbers I provided didn't include the a value for the T1 BPC required.)
What you can sell it for.
A fraction of the manufacturing profit.

I tend to go for the first one, as it's pretty much the only value you can easily pin a number to. The T2 BPC market is reasonably minimal, and tends to follow the first one in price. And going by the manufacturing profit introduces a whole bunch of arguments about what fraction is reasonable.

As an aside, the numbers I gave were based off a low skill inventor, and they did take into account failure, on the material costs. not for slot costs, or pos costs, but those are highly subjective numbers.


If you can sell your BPCs at 80 million a pop, go for it. Make your profit. If you can't, then they no longer have that value. You can't say: Things have the value that people are willing to buy them at. Then say: Things have the value people used to buy them at. Values change.