Missions & Complexes

Why not just train the skills to 5 and be done with it. If you want in to incursions (group pve) you need to have something to offer the group. Anything that's worth anything takes time to do.

well, you can sell your basi and give up, or you can train level 4 and try to get into fleets. Training your CNR and Tengu skills will be good for your personally, but they won't help if your goal is incursions, which is at least what this thread seems to be about.

And with an attitude like that you wonder why you don't get an invite.

Right with that out of the way lets have a look at your actual skills:

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Paul_Otichoda

Basic stuff first:

Hull upgrades IV - this means you can fit a t2 damage control, always useful, long term you want to get this to V as it will help every ship you ever fly, plus its needed if you ever want to fly a t2 armour tank.
Mechanics V - again always useful
CPU Management V, Power Grid management V, virtually always useful

Now onto logistics in incursions.

Drones - able to use hobgoblin IIs but only have Repair Drone operation I - I'll consider this allowable for a newer character as a basilisk only has space for a single flight of drones.
Engineering - Capacitor Emission Systems II - for a basilisk to be cap stable requires the use of remote capacitor transmitters, this skill is also needed at it reduces the amount of capacitor needed to use them - you need it at level IV to be effective
Navigation - most of the time you will be flying with an afterburner fitted, you would need to train fuel conservation up from II
Shields - Shield emission systems II is again just not good enough, it would need to be IV, shield management should be V sooner rather than later though this benefits every ship you fly
Targeting - A basilisk can lock 10 targets _if you have the skills trained_ Remember you will have 2 targets permanently locked in a fleet of logi IV ships. You only have target management trained to IV so you only have 4 spare targets, this is simply not enough.

And the big one - Logistics itself - YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS TO LEVEL IV AT LEAST TO BE EFFECTIVE!

Oh you may be able to spend an absolute fortune and come up with a fit that may just cut it at Logi III but not with the rest of your skills and the reason is clear when you look at the ship bonus for a Basilisk:

Logistics Skill Bonus: 15% reduction in Shield Transport and Energy Transfer Array capacitor use per level

Yes the minimum I'm talking about has a 20% + a 60% reduction to the cap use of the main modules you will need and you are complaining you aren't getting invites when you only have 10% + 45% - I think that is probably a good thing for other people as the thing you fail to realise is that its not you that loses a ship if you fail as a logi pilot - its other people!

You seem to have made the classic mistake and tried to do everything immediately - you have less than 10 million sp. Pick one thing and concentrate on it - if instead of trying to improve your skills with both the raven and the tengu pick one - decent skills in one will have a better effect than mediocre skills in both.

First mistake. Bought the ship before you could even fly it (why do people always do this)

Second mistake. Failed to research. Even a minor about of research would have shown you that Logistics requires at minimum Logi4 and preferrably Logi 5.

Third mistake. Being impatient. Yes Logi 5 is 25 days. But honestly it is probably still your fastest way into incursions. Every fleet needs logi. I love flying logi.

Not looking at your skills I would venture to guess that your best and fastest way into incursions is still to finish up your logi training.

Then pick a single money-making venture and train towards it directly. For something like three months. No diversions, no excuses. Suddenly you'll be making the money you think you want.

What won't work is training towards a half dozen goals and wondering why you're terrible at all of them -- and why, whenever you come to the forums, everyone immediately tells you to skill up.

Well I know Warp to Me has official declared that RNI are no longer being accepted in fleets (I've been on the mailing list for a while) and while TVP does appear to be partly accepting them, with only 60m ISK in the bank I can't even afford to refit the ship for incursion operations. Let alone replace it if I loose it.

If I ever get a pirate ship I'd probably get the nightmare since its uses caldari BS skills. Though its still rather academic considering the highest gunnery skill I have is small hybrid guns 4 (yes that how bad I am in the guns department).

Really my avatar is more and more taking on my real life expression.

because I'd waited 8 days to unlock the ship and I wanted to play with my new toy in the hanger. And I did wait until I had logistics at 1 before I bought it.

And I hoped that I could get away with training it to 4.

basilisk works with level 4 actually, its just that incursion runners have gotten pickier. The nature of the bonus makes the leap from 4 to 5 very significant. The problem with logi is that they're useless unless you have a specific purpose for them. Might as well sell yours.

Though as I understand anyway the basilisk is being side-lined by the Scimitar due to the its lack of need for cap chain and bonuses to remote tracking boasters. Give it 6 months or so and they'll be junking the Basilisk as well. Just in time for me to turn up ready to have a go at incursions properly.

Life is hard.




I trained for missiles and use the RNI so that's not really an option.

Yes it is. On the plus side if you train logi V you can pick up Minmtar cruiser V at some point the in future and jump into a Scimitar. Once you can fly one logi well it isn't hard to fly the others well since you already have the big train (logi V) out of the way.



Sure it is. Just train lasers and go for a Nightmare.