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CCP gifts, do they ever learn

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#1 - 2013-12-22 11:06:36 UTC
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the effort they put into the whole Yule Lads thing and I realise that anything CCP injects into the game is going to cause ripples one way or another but really, giving away T2 modules just is a "no go" kind of thing. T1 modules can also be npc drops and thus those are less of an issue but T2 items are all player produced and while they're "just" T2 data and relic analysers it does affect supply and demand for a player created product, effectively fcking over anyone producing or trading these (and no, I'm not one of them).

CCP shouldn't interfere with the market on specific items (be they Ishuk Scorpions, Magnates, T2 modules or whatever other silly thing they may come up with) like that, one would have thought they'd have learned that by now. Ideally they'd only give away stuff that's without any sort of use and doesn't interfere with any existing product but realistically that'll be quite difficult and costly to come up with something new every time, but they should at least realise what NOT to do.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2013-12-22 11:08:10 UTC
I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-12-22 11:11:07 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.


Basically this. A load of T1/T2 junk is basically nothing. 30 Ishukone Scorpions are something totally different, OP.

Dodixie > Hek

Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#4 - 2013-12-22 11:11:08 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.


if "everyone" or at least a vast majority gets them then it will have an effect, it's not going to be the end of the world nor have any very long lasting effects at all, but it's the principle of the thing; CCP shouldn't touch player created products.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-12-22 11:12:47 UTC
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone complain about this before. Having to compete with hundreds of thousands of CCP spawned items can't be good for their sales. The effect per individual player might be small, but that's still a huge number of sales they're not going to make.
Cavalira
Habemus
#6 - 2013-12-22 11:23:17 UTC
**** happens.
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#7 - 2013-12-22 11:37:03 UTC
All I wanted was a pink thong.

Maybe next year.

Don't anger the forum gods.

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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#8 - 2013-12-22 11:41:46 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.


if "everyone" or at least a vast majority gets them then it will have an effect, it's not going to be the end of the world nor have any very long lasting effects at all, but it's the principle of the thing; CCP shouldn't touch player created products.


Virtually all items can be player created, are you saying that CCP shouldn't give away anything at all?

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Kate stark
#9 - 2013-12-22 11:44:09 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.


if "everyone" or at least a vast majority gets them then it will have an effect, it's not going to be the end of the world nor have any very long lasting effects at all, but it's the principle of the thing; CCP shouldn't touch player created products.


Virtually all items can be player created, are you saying that CCP shouldn't give away anything at all?


ccp should give out more fun stuff rather than junk you wouldn't even loot from a wreck.

snowballs are fun, fedo was great, neural remaps were awesome when ccp gave them away (or gave you the option for a carepackage of USEFUL stuff) etc.

previous year's gifts and giveaways have all been better than the yule lads junk.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#10 - 2013-12-22 11:45:24 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.


if "everyone" or at least a vast majority gets them then it will have an effect, it's not going to be the end of the world nor have any very long lasting effects at all, but it's the principle of the thing; CCP shouldn't touch player created products.


Virtually all items can be player created, are you saying that CCP shouldn't give away anything at all?


No, what I'm saying is that you should probably read the OP better and use less straw man stuff. per op; "i't always going to cause ripples but toying with stuff that's ONLY player produced, instead of also being drops or otherwise attainable, is just wrong.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-12-22 12:12:00 UTC
I'm having a hard time mustering the care for this.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Kate stark
#12 - 2013-12-22 12:14:51 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm having a hard time mustering the care for this.

still enough to post.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-12-22 12:15:41 UTC
If they were giving away tens of thousands of T2 BPO's then I might give a ****.

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#14 - 2013-12-22 12:18:54 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.


if "everyone" or at least a vast majority gets them then it will have an effect, it's not going to be the end of the world nor have any very long lasting effects at all, but it's the principle of the thing; CCP shouldn't touch player created products.


Virtually all items can be player created, are you saying that CCP shouldn't give away anything at all?


ccp should give out more fun stuff rather than junk you wouldn't even loot from a wreck.

snowballs are fun, fedo was great, neural remaps were awesome when ccp gave them away (or gave you the option for a carepackage of USEFUL stuff) etc.

previous year's gifts and giveaways have all been better than the yule lads junk.


You know, there are still 2 days left. Did you expect to get 13 remaps and genolution implants this year?

All these junk items are meant as a joke, you can trash them if you dont like them.

Tomorrow we will most likely get a Genolution implant and on the 24th we will most likely get the fancy minmatar shuttle.

❤️️💛💚💙💜

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-12-22 12:19:28 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm having a hard time mustering the care for this.

still enough to post.

Of course I cared to post. Point was that I don't care to go on a crusade of outrage at CCP over giving out small-time T2 items for Christmas. If they were giving out something that had a greater profit margin I might.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-12-22 12:20:43 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
You know, there are still 2 days left. Did you expect to get 13 remaps and genolution implants this year?

All these junk items are meant as a joke, you can trash them if you dont like them.

Tomorrow we will most likely get a Genolution implant and on the 24th we will most likely get the fancy minmatar shuttle.

I look forward to these items if we get them, and I look forward to the cries of Christmas injustice if we don't.
Either way I win.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Kate stark
#17 - 2013-12-22 12:23:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Kate stark
Mizhir wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.


if "everyone" or at least a vast majority gets them then it will have an effect, it's not going to be the end of the world nor have any very long lasting effects at all, but it's the principle of the thing; CCP shouldn't touch player created products.


Virtually all items can be player created, are you saying that CCP shouldn't give away anything at all?


ccp should give out more fun stuff rather than junk you wouldn't even loot from a wreck.

snowballs are fun, fedo was great, neural remaps were awesome when ccp gave them away (or gave you the option for a carepackage of USEFUL stuff) etc.

previous year's gifts and giveaways have all been better than the yule lads junk.


You know, there are still 2 days left. Did you expect to get 13 remaps and genolution implants this year?

All these junk items are meant as a joke, you can trash them if you dont like them.

Tomorrow we will most likely get a Genolution implant and on the 24th we will most likely get the fancy minmatar shuttle.


no, i didn't. if you're dumb enough to think that's even remotely what I implied then I worry for you.

they might be meant as a joke but that's kinda the point, they're only a joke in the "this is a waste of ******* time" rather than "oh, that's cool". the only one that i have redeemed and not thought "why did i bother/what was i expecting?" was fedo. even then, i'd rather have had 1 remap than all of the junk we've been given so far.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#18 - 2013-12-22 12:23:19 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm having a hard time mustering the care for this.

still enough to post.

Of course I cared to post. Point was that I don't care to go on a crusade of outrage at CCP over giving out small-time T2 items for Christmas. If they were giving out something that had a greater profit margin I might.


I'm not "outraged", but at the same time I DO care about the principle even though it doesn't affect me personally.
Haygrove
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-12-22 12:28:47 UTC
I found the whole event to be enjoyable. I have a variety of items, that while I have little use for most... I can use for other things. I was sitting around wondering what to do with some of my loyalty points when suddenly I got some T1 launchers and got an idea to use them to convert to faction modules, which gleaned me a nice profit. I was in low sec doing my thing when I had an idea to transport some goods to highsec to make some profit and lo-behold.... Yule Lads gave me a cargo extender II. While I have no use for the snowball launcher, plenty of people in my corporation did for an in house event so I repackaged that gift and bam, brownie points.

Really, all of this has been a boon and there has been no downfall. It is all optional, you do not even get this stuff automatically. While there can always be "Better" options when it comes to gifts (and there are entirely too many threads on this subject) the fact of the matter is that you get gifts at all should be important.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#20 - 2013-12-22 12:35:08 UTC
Kate stark wrote:


no, i didn't. if you're dumb enough to think that's even remotely what I implied then I worry for you.

they might be meant as a joke but that's kinda the point, they're only a joke in the "this is a waste of ******* time" rather than "oh, that's cool". the only one that i haven't redeemed and thought "why did i bother/what was i expecting?" was fedo. even then, i'd rather have had 1 remap than any of the junk we've been given so far.


Why don't you just claim them all on the 24th? problem solved. You only have to claim the **** once and you will get something neat on top of it, it will probably not be a remap, but it will be something of value.

You whine like a little spoiled kid who thinks that every gift must be something super awesome and you fail to understand that these gifts are all parts of one gift, where the last 1 or 2 parts are the actual gifts.

I find it entertaining to read about the yule lads and then guess what they give. It is nice to learn about other traditions and for some reason there is something nostalgic over christmas calenders like this. Makes me think of my childhood.

And the fedo is funny. I wish I could have it crawling around in my CQ.

❤️️💛💚💙💜

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