EVE General Discussion

As subject says. First they do a ninja patch on it to make it harder to scan, just because one dev over there thought it was a good idea for extra probes past 4 probes to make a difference, even though all it does is make the screen EVEN MORE CLUTTERED and a pain in the ass to use.

Now I come back after a hiatus, and I can't get a mag site above 65% with 4 sisters core probes in a rigged cov ops ship, with 4/5 level skills?

This is annoying. QUIT NINJA PATCHING A PERFECTLY GOOD SYSTEM.

"Adapt, or die ..."
- old eve truth

^ this

"Adapt or perish, now as ever, is nature's inexorable imperative."
~H.G. Wells

You are bad at scanning.
You now need 6 probes to get the same strength as 4 probes, previously.
If you use 7 or 8 probes, scanning is easier than before.

Also, use the alt-key.
Finally, stop posting.

Thank you.

Netcraft confirms it...OP fails at scanning.

Greetings capsuleer,

It depends on how long you have been in suspension; but there have been several enhancements in probing. Concord has published this, simplified guide to assist you in the conversion process. I believe there is also an audio/visual guide that will show you how it is done now.

well at least it means I didn't waste all that time training astrometrics V, stupidly thinking there were things to find beyond the outer planets of the solar system.

Above approach works very well, and is easy to implement. I've been trying to figure out an 8-probe config that works better, but haven't yet.

Hi there. I'm the dev you're talking about. I don't think I've made much of a secret that I changed the formulas, but allow me to hit the motivations more for ya.

The scanning system was not a perfectly good system. When scanning in a highly populated system, the request would take many seconds of execution time due to poor scaling of the calculations backing it. In a world when we usually talk about things in thousandths of a second, a system eating up many seconds is a severe problem.

Allowing more than four probes to count solved one of the scaling problems. In the previous system, the "best four" probes for any given scan result were used, and due to some of the intricacies involved that meant calculating everything out for every combination of four probes. With all 8 probes in range, that's 70 combinations to compute for every result. If some day the fine folks over in design ever think allowing a 9th would be a good idea, that would have taken the worse case up to 126. Scaling with the factorial like that is plainly not acceptable.

So, I redid the formulas. They scale a ton better now and are loosely balanced to have 6 probes give about the same result as 4 used to, given reasonable geometric layout, as observed by posters above. Probe 7 and 8 are gravy.

So what is the best method to scan with?

I currently, and have been in the past using 5 probes. I have all scanning skills at V, using a Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher and a Covert Ops at V.

I put 1 probe in the middle (on the red circle) and then 4 around it, generally one on each side. (top, bottom, left and right)

Adding 2 more (above and below) sounds like it would take more time to scan something down, because not only do I have to move the 5 I start with up and down, I have to change camera views to move the other 2. (hopefully this makes sense)

Or by adding 2 more probes does this mean I don't have to narrow the scan results down as low as before?

A good example is I have to narrow the 5 probes down to 1.0 AU before I get a 100% lock on a wormhole.