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[NEWS] Further Highlander Leaks Implicate Federation In Illegal Border Breaches
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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2013-12-17 15:52:53 UTC
Additional Highlander document leaks occurred today. The important passage is, "It would appear after initial investigation that under legislation passed with the CONCORD Emergency Militia War Powers Act many of these breaches of the Caldari border may be in violation of the Yulai Convention."

I remain largely unsurprised by the leaks so far. Espionage! Gasp. Who'd have thought two powers at war would spy on one another? Or that the Federation would attempt to establish assessments of the military capabilities of the State?

Admittedly, proper assessment could be prelude to a strike-- but it could just as easily be a measure to ensure that the Federation isn't caught flat-footed as it was during the seizure of Caldari Prime. As belligerent as the Roden administration is, I doubt they could expand the war without facing an immediate vote of no-confidence, as I doubt your average Gallente citizen wants any disruption to his comfortable life.

Still, it will be interesting to see what comes of CONCORD intervention. Perhaps their intervention here will have more teeth and more sense than their disastrous attempt to intervene in null security space.

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Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-12-17 16:09:15 UTC
Odo Hakaalen, Corporate Relations Director for the Chief Executive Panel said... “continued increase in belligerent behavior on the part of the Federal Administration”

Really? Ugh, I hate politics sometimes. All a bunch of liars. Can we use this sentence and quote it in verbatim but just switch Federation and State when it comes out that the Caldari state has been doing the same thing, during the same timeline? I mean, we all know both sides are doing this sort of thing considering tensions and relations between us and nobodies hands are clean here.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#3 - 2013-12-17 16:22:16 UTC
Nothing to see here folks. As others have said, just more normal cloak and dagger stuff between competing national interests.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#4 - 2013-12-17 16:23:15 UTC
Breaches of the Yulai Convention, eh?

Well then, we all know what happens when there's a war, that breaks one or more articles of the Convention.

Concord invalidates it.

So the Federation have just lost all of Placid to the State. Including Intaki.

Since the Caldari hold all that space right now, yes ?

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Anslo
Scope Works
#5 - 2013-12-17 16:59:25 UTC
Welp. Popcorn anyone?
Serious note; How is this news? Everyone spies on everyone. Come on....

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Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-12-17 17:16:53 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Breaches of the Yulai Convention, eh?

Well then, we all know what happens when there's a war, that breaks one or more articles of the Convention.

Concord invalidates it.

So the Federation have just lost all of Placid to the State. Including Intaki.

Since the Caldari hold all that space right now, yes ?


No

Once again, politics. If the Caldari even tried to pull this, likely we would release some of the intel we have that shows you do the same spying we do. Then it would come out you tried to take a system while knowing that you all also knowingly broke the convention to. How do you think that would look? You're State trying to use this to take Placid would just be foolish.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#7 - 2013-12-17 17:23:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Makoto Priano
Ms. Sythaeryn, let me fix your statement: "You're the State trying to use this to secure Placid, the region you've already taken."

There. Fixed that for you.

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2013-12-17 17:45:56 UTC
As much as I look forward to the fallout settling on guilty parties in the Federation's ruling bodies once the war is over and cannot be used to excuse their habitual breaches of interstellar law, I don't see anything to really get upset about in here.

These are things that warring States do to each other. The warcrimes? The murders? The terrorism and the death squads? THOSE I want to see punished.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-12-17 17:53:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Pontianak Sythaeryn
Makoto Priano wrote:
Mr. Sythaeryn, let me fix your statement: "You're the State trying to use this to secure Placid, the region you've already taken."

There. Fixed that for you.


Ms. Priano

While it may be occupied, doesn't mean they identify with you. At all.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#10 - 2013-12-17 17:54:22 UTC
I've always thought interstellar intelligence agencies see CONCORD, CEWPA, and interstellar law as polite suggestions rather than actual rules. Surely, if a spy only wanted to gain the information they could legally obtain, they would simply wait for the empires to politely hand them press releases.

They can't really complain when other nations and independent press organizations do precisely the same thing.

If there's one thing about foreign space I absolutely love, it's the free, independent press.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#11 - 2013-12-17 17:57:27 UTC
Pontianak Sythaeryn wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Breaches of the Yulai Convention, eh?

Well then, we all know what happens when there's a war, that breaks one or more articles of the Convention.

Concord invalidates it.

So the Federation have just lost all of Placid to the State. Including Intaki.

Since the Caldari hold all that space right now, yes ?


No

Once again, politics. If the Caldari even tried to pull this, likely we would release some of the intel we have that shows you do the same spying we do. Then it would come out you tried to take a system while knowing that you all also knowingly broke the convention to. How do you think that would look? You're State trying to use this to take Placid would just be foolish.



Judging by this statement, I seem to have become a State citizen. Good heavens. How awkward.

I hope one of my Caldari friends can help clear this confusion up.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Seneun
#12 - 2013-12-17 17:58:17 UTC
Hm, and who stands to benefit from the escalation in political tension? Is there an entity whose legitimacy is incorporated in the regulation of such tension?
Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-12-17 18:00:07 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Judging by this statement, I seem to have become a State citizen. Good heavens. How awkward.

I hope one of my Caldari friends can help clear this confusion up.


Hum, you weren't? Apologies. Nobody is perfect, especially me. :)
Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-12-17 18:01:09 UTC
Seneun wrote:
Hm, and who stands to benefit from the escalation in political tension? Is there an entity whose legitimacy is incorporated in the regulation of such tension?


CONCORD I would imagine. After all, then they get to flex their muscle and meddle in the affairs of what should be private matters between nations.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#15 - 2013-12-17 18:02:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Valerie Valate wrote:

Judging by this statement, I seem to have become a State citizen. Good heavens. How awkward.

I hope one of my Caldari friends can help clear this confusion up.


Well, you know... if you can put the whole blood thing behind you...

EDIT:

Oh, and about the news. Not surprised here.

Katrina Oniseki
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#16 - 2013-12-17 18:22:23 UTC
The Gallente got caught. Simple as that.
Now they need to face the consequences of their actions.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#17 - 2013-12-17 18:47:24 UTC
Pontianak Sythaeryn wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
Mr. Sythaeryn, let me fix your statement: "You're the State trying to use this to secure Placid, the region you've already taken."

There. Fixed that for you.


Ms. Priano

While it may be occupied, doesn't mean they identify with you. At all.


It's a brave person indeed who thinks they can speak on behalf of the population of an entire region of space.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-12-17 18:53:01 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Pontianak Sythaeryn wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
Mr. Sythaeryn, let me fix your statement: "You're the State trying to use this to secure Placid, the region you've already taken."

There. Fixed that for you.


Ms. Priano

While it may be occupied, doesn't mean they identify with you. At all.


It's a brave person indeed who thinks they can speak on behalf of the population of an entire region of space.


Surely you are not implying that I am doing so. If anything, I'm just pointing out the Intaki as a whole are going to be very divided on the issue. I'm sure some would identify with the Caldari, I'm sure some would be all gung-ho with the Federation. I'm sure others would want to form their own society.

Just because you may lay claim to them on some electronic signature, doesn't mean you actually own them as a people Mr Tuulinen.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#19 - 2013-12-17 19:01:46 UTC
Of course not! Anyone who knows my public record knows I'm a staunch supporter of freedom for the Intaki from the CEWPMA.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Anslo
Scope Works
#20 - 2013-12-17 19:06:06 UTC
A big chunk of Intaki don't even wanna be part of the Fed. Look at the Syndicate and how they expanded against the Senate's wish.

Sound familiar, don't it madame?

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