Warfare & Tactics

I did read your post. OP isn't whining about ISK/hr. That's not the discussion being had. Maybe you should find one of those topics to post in.

I figured you were a vet when you brought out the analogy in the first place. All due respect to your service, the analogy still isn't accurate nor relevant to the game mechanics being discussed. You didn't actually address the content of my argument, you just pulled your service as if that was an end to the discussion.

EVE is kindof a nightmare of conflicting game design elements. The intent of the designers with a particular mechanic, the unintended consequences, ect ect. One pretty obvious element from the beginning has been that aggressors are not prevented from acting, but they are intended to incur consequences for their aggression. CONCORD, Gate Guns, Aggression Timers for gates or docking and others are all examples of this.

Aggressors tend to have advantages like dictating the timing of an engagement or taking the initiative. Entering a FW plex as a neutral player has all the qualities of an aggressive action. It should be treated as such. Instead neutrals get to fly around, take aggressive action towards FW players and not suffer normal repercussions of that aggressive action. Indeed, those repercussions are even shifted onto the people they are aggressing.

A suspect flag would also allow free engagement by all parties and encourage more pvp, so really its a win win.

Prolly because we all shoot neuts already.

change it to limited engagement timer and i fully support this proposal. The idea isn't new but the threads just usually end after nullsec trolls derail them into "if you don't want sec hits go to null".

you shouldn't end up being an outlaw after a few month of faction war just because you are defending plexes.

so +1

Go ahead and make us blinky. You'll still just run away.

I'd rather go for no sec-status hit within plexes which would be beneficial for everyone. And yes, I am shooting every neutral that comes inside my plex under any circumstances but prefer to keep my sec status high enough to do the occasional Caldari high sec raid. And buying sec status is an annoyance with Concord offices being far away from the warzone, not speaking of shooting red crosses in asteroid belts.

For sure nothing that is a priority compared to some other FW mechanism but a niice little improvement.

Because CONCORD thinks defenders of democracy and justice should not be allowed back into high sec. They started this Faction War thing to keep us "war mongerers" occupied, and the only way to keep us from spreading the truth in high security space is to keep us out. That's why they don't do the sensible thing and apply a suspect flag.

- Signed, Bitter Defender of The Federation

Why on earth would you expect to be handed a free fire ticket on anyone (who's not blinky) anywhere in low security dead space.

Do you even know what this topic is about?

See, now this merits a HTFU response.

yep, shoot first or don't

the same choice everyone in lowsec makes when faced with another player

deal with it