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Smoking while Playing Eve - PSA

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SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2013-12-22 16:28:29 UTC
always have a nice smoke when playing Eve Big smile lol at some of the people in this thread specially xuixiun kidLol

I disagree
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2013-12-25 13:17:53 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:


I listed my qualifications so as to let people know that my extremely controversial opinion was coming from someone with 'qualifications'.


Well as long as it's just an opinion, then qualifications are irrelevant, aren't they.



Wrong.


No, right, because qualifications are irrelevant on the internet. You could tell me you're a bricklayer and I have no reason to believe you at all. Use some citations in your arguments, as a qualified person would do, or at least use some merit, and maybe your opinion might be considered more worth taking seriously.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Thatt Guy
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2013-12-25 15:47:04 UTC
VegasMirage wrote:
Please stop this bad habit. It's amazing how many of you still smoke cigarettes.

Come on, it's not the 70's even the tobacco companies advertise you're gonna die if you do it. Stop now. Ok.



because this guy should decide what I do Roll

Haters gonna hate, Trolls gonna troll.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#84 - 2013-12-25 16:00:49 UTC
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#85 - 2013-12-25 16:08:31 UTC
Bump.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#86 - 2013-12-25 23:43:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
I smoked until I got bronchitis from it, after that, never ever again.

Plus someone told me it makes you age faster, that was actually more scary than the threat of cancer.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#87 - 2013-12-26 12:37:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Remiel Pollard wrote:

No, right, because qualifications are irrelevant on the internet. You could tell me you're a bricklayer and I have no reason to believe you at all. Use some citations in your arguments, as a qualified person would do, or at least use some merit, and maybe your opinion might be considered more worth taking seriously.



Would I need to site research in the professional setting? In your opinion, even if I have a degree sitting behind me on my desk, when you are sitting across from me, that would mean nothing as well. So why do professionals put them up? My opinion is based on practice with thousands of people. I can not post research to support my opinion. I pointed out that the only research done on the topic is done on populations that smoke heavily, not in moderation. Therefore, I have to rely on my ability to speak with a modicum of logic, present the qualifications that I do have, and then let my words stir thoughts. If you have no interest in my qualifications then ignore them and argue against my opinions with the research you want to counter if that is what you want to do. As I said my opinion is an opinion based on practice. And trust me, I can post research to any topic and do when it is there.

1) Do cognitive attributions for smoking predict subsequent smoking development?

Source: Addictive Behaviors. Mar2012, Vol. 37 Issue 3, p273-279. 7p.

Geographic Terms: CHINA

Abstract: To develop more effective anti-smoking programs, it is important to understand the factors that influence people to smoke. Guided by attribution theory, a longitudinal study was conducted to investigate how individuals'' cognitive attributions for smoking were associated with subsequent smoking development and through which pathways. Middle and high school students in seven large cities in China (N=12,382; 48.5% boys and 51.5% girls) completed two annual surveys. Associations between cognitive attributions for smoking and subsequent smoking initiation and progression were tested with multilevel analysis, taking into account plausible moderation effects of gender and baseline smoking status. Mediation effects of susceptibility to smoking were investigated using statistical mediation analysis (MacKinnon, 2008). Six out of eight tested themes of cognitive attributions were associated with subsequent smoking development. Curiosity (β =0.11, p <0.001) and autonomy (β =0.08, p =0.019) were associated with smoking initiation among baseline non-smokers. Coping (β =0.07, p< 0.001) and social image (β =0.10, p =<.0001) were associated with smoking progression among baseline lifetime smokers. Social image (β =0.05, p =0.043), engagement (β =0.07, p =0.003), and mental enhancement (β =0.15, p <0.001) were associated with smoking progression among baseline past 30-day smokers. More attributions were associated with smoking development among males than among females. Susceptibility to smoking partially mediated most of the associations, with the proportion of mediated effects ranging from 4.3% to 30.8%. This study identifies the roles that cognitive attributions for smoking play in subsequent smoking development. These attributions could be addressed in smoking prevention programs.

2) Exploring Peers as a Mediator of the Association Between Depression and Smoking in Young Adolescents.

Source: Substance Use & Misuse. 2005, Vol. 40 Issue 1, p77-98. 22p. 5 Charts.

Abstract: Recent research has suggested that depression causes teens to begin smoking to elevate their mood. Other studies, however, have suggested the reverse causal direction: smoking causes depression. To gain a more complete understanding of the relationship between smoking and depression, potential mediators should be explored. This study explored how peer influences could mediate the relationship between depression and smoking. The methodology of Baron and Kenney was followed to test for mediation and moderation. Peers mediated the relationship between depression and smoking. Separate analyses by gender showed that depression remained significantly associated with smoking when peers were included in the model for girls only. Peer influence was related to depressed affect for both genders. These results provide evidence that peer influences are an important variable to take into consideration when addressing a depression smoking relationship.

3) A two-year follow-up investigation of parenting and peer influences on tobacco use onset among Italian early adolescents.

Source: European Journal of Developmental Psychology. Sep2011, Vol. 8 Issue 5, p573-586. 14p.

Abstract: The aim of this study was to investigate the influence of peer and family influences on tobacco use onset among Italian early adolescents at two-year follow-up. Participants were 161 adolescents aged 11 to 12 (M = 11.14, SD = 0.39; 49% female) living in the northwest of Italy. Multiple logistic regressions were used. Results indicated that increases in positive family climate were negatively associated with lifetime smoking among non-smokers at two-year follow-up. Additionally, parental knowledge of child daily activities decreased lifetime smoking at two-year follow-up. Moderation analyses revealed that parental knowledge reduced the effect of peers' influence on youth smoking onset at two-year follow-up. This study underlined the influence of parenting practices in preventing early smoking initiation in Italy.

So; there is research out there trying to find out why people abuse behaviors, but as I said no research looking at moderate use of smoking but you can find research on moderate alcohol consumption though.

4) Alcohol in moderation, premorbid intelligence and cognition in older adults: results from the Psychiatric Morbidity Survey.

Source: Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery & Psychiatry. Nov2009, Vol. 80 Issue 11, p1236-1239. 4p. 4 Charts.

Abstract:
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#88 - 2013-12-26 12:38:46 UTC
AIMS: To test the hypothesis that the association previously reported between moderate alcohol use and better cognition is an artefact of confounding by (a) higher premorbid education and socioeconomic status; (b) a lifestyle of moderation (using smoking as a risk marker); and (c) decreased alcohol consumption in people with physical illnesses. METHOD: Data were analysed from people aged 60–74 years interviewed for the 2000 British National Psychiatric Morbidity Survey, representative of people living in private homes. Alcohol use information was available for 1985 (98.9%) of the eligible participants, of whom 1735 (87.4%) who drank moderately or abstained were included in the analyses. Our main outcome measures were the Alcohol Use Disorders Identification Test (AUDIT), the Telephone Interview for Cognitive Status Screen for Cognitive Impairment and the National Adult Reading Test to measure crystallised (premorbid) intelligence. Our physical health measures were the number of prescribed medications and physical illness reported, and the 12 item Short Form Health Survey’s Physical Component Score. RESULTS: The relationship between current cognition and alcohol use was reduced and no longer significant after considering premorbid intelligence or physical health. In our final model, the significant predictors of current cognition among non-problem drinkers were: age (B = –0.13, –0.18 to –0.08; p<0.001) and crystallised intelligence (B = 0.14, 0.12 to 0.17; p<0.001). Smoking was not associated with cognition. CONCLUSIONS: In people who were not problem drinkers, higher alcohol intake was not associated with improved current cognition after controlling for premorbid intelligence and physical health. Our findings suggest that, despite previous suggestions, moderate alcohol consumption does not protect older people from cognitive decline.


Trust me, if you kept up with the old forums I posted research with everything I posted. But in my life today, I do not always have the time to afford to spoon feed research to those that are unwilling to research both side of a topic before they speak themselves.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#89 - 2013-12-26 16:01:59 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
AIMS: To test the hypothesis that the association previously reported between moderate alcohol use and better cognition is an artefact of confounding by (a) higher premorbid education and socioeconomic status; (b) a lifestyle of moderation (using smoking as a risk marker); and (c) decreased alcohol consumption in people with physical illnesses. METHOD: Data were analysed from people aged 60–74 years interviewed for the 2000 British National Psychiatric Morbidity Survey, representative of people living in private homes. Alcohol use information was available for 1985 (98.9%) of the eligible participants, of whom 1735 (87.4%) who drank moderately or abstained were included in the analyses. Our main outcome measures were the Alcohol Use Disorders Identification Test (AUDIT), the Telephone Interview for Cognitive Status Screen for Cognitive Impairment and the National Adult Reading Test to measure crystallised (premorbid) intelligence. Our physical health measures were the number of prescribed medications and physical illness reported, and the 12 item Short Form Health Survey’s Physical Component Score. RESULTS: The relationship between current cognition and alcohol use was reduced and no longer significant after considering premorbid intelligence or physical health. In our final model, the significant predictors of current cognition among non-problem drinkers were: age (B = –0.13, –0.18 to –0.08; p<0.001) and crystallised intelligence (B = 0.14, 0.12 to 0.17; p<0.001). Smoking was not associated with cognition. CONCLUSIONS: In people who were not problem drinkers, higher alcohol intake was not associated with improved current cognition after controlling for premorbid intelligence and physical health. Our findings suggest that, despite previous suggestions, moderate alcohol consumption does not protect older people from cognitive decline.


Trust me, if you kept up with the old forums I posted research with everything I posted. But in my life today, I do not always have the time to afford to spoon feed research to those that are unwilling to research both side of a topic before they speak themselves.


Yup.

Alcohol almost killed me. Took over 10 years to truly quit. Hardest thing I've ever had to do.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#90 - 2013-12-26 19:39:24 UTC
Just wanted to say Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all. Thanks for all your insights and healthy discussions AND the sprinkle of hate, which I thrive on btw >_< ISD should leave the posts, nothing on this thread was as bad as what you get from Hi Sec Mercs chest beating in C&P, which should also be regulated by local government P

I'm not trying to brow beat anybody who smokes. I apologize if I came across as a wet nurse, but come on people the research is in. The chance to sound intelligent, funny or cool while promoting the benefits of smoking is over. It's senseless.

Thank you to the posts who were honest about the reason they smoke. Perhaps somebody who hasn't started will see it and decide against starting...

I don't think banning everything is the way forward, but controlling how and where it's done is important for me. The reason I started the thread was because I had a really bad month surrounded by smokers at my new job.

In a board presentation they chain smoked. Then in the parking garage, 4-5 analysts smoking next to my car... in a freaking busy parking garage. I get in my car and rev the engine for 10 minutes smiling at them... here have some more... for free.

All the while, No Smoking Signs everywhere. I finally told the CEO I couldn't work there anymore. I was contacted and told smoking would be stopped in all non smoking areas, if I didn't leave.

I was actually sick for 2-3 days from Bronchitis from the smoke. Can't remember the last time I was sick. So, I started this thread.

Yes, go home and smoke your cartoon of Pall Malls, Davidoffs or hand rolled shag while sipping on your balloon snifter of cognac and pray your child doesn't pick up the habit of chain smoking Marlboro Reds or Unfiltered Camels (because it's healthier without a filter).

no more games... it's real this time!!!