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Alex Sorensen
Obsidian Reclamation Enterprise
#1 - 2013-12-13 19:58:21 UTC
Disclaimer: I'm a noob so please forgive my noobiness if this is in the wrong forum for this or if this topic has been done to death before.


I was just wondering what you guys would like to see in Eve 2 if CCP started working on it?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2013-12-13 20:00:42 UTC
We're already at EVE IV, at least. P

Aside from that, I'd prefer not to see an EVE 2 at all.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#3 - 2013-12-13 20:01:02 UTC
Spaceships

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Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#4 - 2013-12-13 20:01:07 UTC
Alex Sorensen wrote:
Disclaimer: I'm a noob so please forgive my noobiness if this is in the wrong forum for this or if this topic has been done to death before.


I was just wondering what you guys would like to see in Eve 2 if CCP started working on it?


Well, we're at Eve 20 now actually. We get a new one twice a year.
Alex Sorensen
Obsidian Reclamation Enterprise
#5 - 2013-12-13 20:04:35 UTC
I get this game gets a lot of content updates regularly, I was referring to a new game with improved graphics and some new features (like touching down on planets without playing DUST).

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#6 - 2013-12-13 20:07:44 UTC
Are we really rolling back to Exodus?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2013-12-13 20:07:58 UTC
Alex Sorensen wrote:
I get this game gets a lot of content updates regularly, I was referring to a new game with improved graphics and some new features (like touching down on planets without playing DUST).

…and it's by counting those kinds of revamps that we arrive at EVE ~IV for the current version. Blink
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-12-13 20:08:44 UTC
Alex Sorensen wrote:
I get this game gets a lot of content updates regularly, I was referring to a new game with improved graphics and some new features (like touching down on planets without playing DUST).


Apparently there's no market for that, which is why Star Citizen managed to raise £30m. Well I should say there's no market for a game like that, but there's a huge market for hype, which of course Star Citizen has managed to attract a lot of, like a supermassive black hole sucking down an entire galaxy of BS.

Anyway, ... opportunity cost.
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#9 - 2013-12-13 20:16:22 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Alex Sorensen wrote:
I get this game gets a lot of content updates regularly, I was referring to a new game with improved graphics and some new features (like touching down on planets without playing DUST).


Apparently there's no market for that, which is why Star Citizen managed to raise £30m. Well I should say there's no market for a game like that, but there's a huge market for hype, which of course Star Citizen has managed to attract a lot of, like a supermassive black hole sucking down an entire galaxy of BS.

Anyway, ... opportunity cost.


Speaking of which, does anyone remember old school space shooters like Wing Commander, Freespace, Starlancer, Freelancer, etc having any form of meaningful gameplay that didn't take place in space? This ties in to WiS as well. Why do so many fans of the genre want all these features that were never part of the genre in the first place? But, but... landing on planets. What for? Is the planet inhabited by prostitutes? I see no reason to go down there.
Halcyon Harvey
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-12-13 20:17:21 UTC
Alex Sorensen wrote:
what you guys would like to see in Eve 2 if CCP started working on it?

1) Walking in stations, walking on planets, moonwalking (space combat limited to PvE railshooting)

2) More detailed character sculpting (more face tattoos + option to make my character shorter and fatter)

3) No time training. "Highlander" training instead. Kill someone... absorb skillpoints (there can be only one)

4) Larger variety of Quafe products

5) Removal of high and low security space, because there's nothing secure about it anyway

6) Permadeath

That is all.

Forsaken (An EVE Thing)
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-12-13 20:21:25 UTC
Vicky Somers wrote:

Speaking of which, does anyone remember old school space shooters like Wing Commander, Freespace, Starlancer, Freelancer, etc having any form of meaningful gameplay that didn't take place in space? This ties in to WiS as well. Why do so many fans of the genre want all these features that were never part of the genre in the first place? But, but... landing on planets. What for? Is the planet inhabited by prostitutes? I see no reason to go down there.


I'll tell you why: When I was playing Elite on my BBC Micro, I would imagine being able to land on a planet, get out of my ship and walk around, maybe engage in a little FPS action (though FPS was only in arcades then), dock at a station, walk around the station getting into adventures and so on.

The marriage of space simulator and FPS is, in my opinion, the Holy Grail of video gaming.
Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-12-13 20:35:04 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
[quote=Vicky Somers]
The marriage of space simulator and FPS is, in my opinion, the Holy Grail of video gaming.


Being able to board and take over other peoples ships in FPS shootouts is pretty awesome in my mind.
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-12-13 20:42:18 UTC
What I'd like to see is something that at least pretends to have space mechanics.

Alex Sorensen wrote:
I get this game gets a lot of content updates regularly, I was referring to a new game with improved graphics and some new features (like touching down on planets without playing DUST).

Eve's graphics have been overhauled twice since I started playing.

As for new features, they come regularly.

Victoria Sin wrote:
I'll tell you why: When I was playing Elite on my BBC Micro, I would imagine being able to land on a planet, get out of my ship and walk around, maybe engage in a little FPS action (though FPS was only in arcades then), dock at a station, walk around the station getting into adventures and so on.

The marriage of space simulator and FPS is, in my opinion, the Holy Grail of video gaming.

Problem is that involved building both a space game and the FPS game. Which is either a major expense, or means cutting corners on one or both of them.

Make both relevant and you lose the players who only like one of the two. Make one irrelevant and you lose the players who are looking for that one as they move to a game that focuses on only that element. Cut corners and you lose the players who like what you cut corners on.
Halcyon Harvey
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-12-13 20:42:51 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
the Holy Grail of video gaming.

We had that. It was called Star Wars Galaxies, but they dun went and ****ed it up many yar ago.

Forsaken (An EVE Thing)
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#15 - 2013-12-13 21:01:23 UTC
Alex Sorensen wrote:
Disclaimer: I'm a noob so please forgive my noobiness if this is in the wrong forum for this or if this topic has been done to death before.


I was just wondering what you guys would like to see in Eve 2 if CCP started working on it?


Eve is in continuous development, there won't be an eve 2 because there can only be eve.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#16 - 2013-12-13 21:01:28 UTC
An EVE 2.0 would require effort and work...

Not to rag on CCP here, but after 6 years and they still can't finish WoD and the horrible job that's being done with Dust. Not to mention that anything involving the old code in EVE 1.0 is still broken and too hard to fix. I don't see them even contemplating an EVE 2.0...

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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#17 - 2013-12-13 21:06:57 UTC
Vicky Somers wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
Alex Sorensen wrote:
I get this game gets a lot of content updates regularly, I was referring to a new game with improvthegraphics and some new features (like touching down on planets without playing DUST).


Apparently there's no market for that, which is why Star Citizen managed to raise £30m. Well I should say there's no market for a game like that, but there's a huge market for hype, which of course Star Citizen has managed to attract a lot of, like a supermassive black hole sucking down an entire galaxy of BS.

Anyway, ... opportunity cost.


Speaking of which, does anyone remember old school space shooters like Wing Commander, Freespace, Starlancer, Freelancer, etc having any form of meaningful gameplay that didn't take place in space? This ties in to WiS as well. Why do so many fans of the genre want all these features that were never part of the genre in the first place? But, but... landing on planets. What for? Is the planet inhabited by prostitutes? I see no reason to go down there.


A truly space going civilisation would have no need of planets once nanotechnology was fully developed, so I'm not too bothered about landing on planets, but the self same civilisation might still need bodies so yes to avatar content.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-12-13 21:07:02 UTC
Alex Sorensen wrote:
Disclaimer: I'm a noob so please forgive my noobiness if this is in the wrong forum for this or if this topic has been done to death before.


I was just wondering what you guys would like to see in Eve 2 if CCP started working on it?


No, absolutely horrible idea. Go away.

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2013-12-13 21:14:18 UTC
Why bother with a completely new game when the current approach of upgrading the current game works fine. Just because the horrible developers in this industry made sequels a standard doesn't mean every game has to follow...

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Lipbite
Express Hauler
#20 - 2013-12-13 21:15:42 UTC
There was exactly this question on Reddit ~2 weeks ago. When I've found it the most upvoted comment was

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