Missions & Complexes

Hey guys

ive just recently come back to eve. at the moment i have a comorant destroyer, but as i recall i was training my skills towards the raven

Now my question is, is it at all possible to make a decent living in eve without the need of mining, i understand how beneficial mining is, and i understand the amount you can make from it is living the high life almost

But i like PVE, i like to blow things up, i wouldnt mind doing kill missions or something

so im wondering what else is out there, and what ship i would need to achieve it

the thought of afking with a mining ship just doesnt appeal to me, i like to do something actively

im not a very complicated person, i like to keep things simplistic. and the simplest explanation possible will do :D

( i know, simple isnt eve, but still :P )

missions will earn you far more than mining but you cant do it afk as much as mining. missiles are good for pve though any weapon systen and race will do depending on where you mission.

if you are going for a raven get a corax, load it up with lights and run lots of lv1s. then get a caracal for lv2 then a drake for lv3. then get t2 tank and t2 drones and the raven with cruise missiles for lv4 missions. you can salvage missions with the cormorant at first and get a noctis later. worth salvaging from lv 3 and up.

Mining is in fact one of the worst sources of ISK for your time in all of EVE. I don't know who told you it was necessary or even a good way to make a living, but they deserve to be shot. If the ISK you make mining is enough to sustain you, virtually any other ISK-positive activity will give you more ISK than you need.

WRONG.

In terms of isk / effort, mining is one of the top activities. Fly a Mack, warp to some high-volume plag asteroids, activate lasers, and go afk for 15-20 mins. For a few seconds of clicking, I think you make 4-6m isk (depending on your skills and fitting).

Most experienced lvl4 mission runners would barely undock for 4-6m ISK. Clearing The Blockade alone brings 20m in bounties, 20m in loot and salvage, the mission reward plus the LP.

and this

Semi-afk mining is nice for extra income on the side with a second account while you run missions or rat in anomalies. People will tell you to use the 2nd character to fly a Noctis or dual box the mission but I suck at dual boxing, so mining it is (was in any case).

Confirming you can earn between 40-60m/hour running L4, less with crappy skills, more with blinged out ships and good knowledge of mission running and/or your pick of valuable off LP store.

Also, when you hit Noctis level for salvaging, do not undock the thing after every mission you run to get the loot/salvage, run 2-4 missions, BM all pockets, then come back to do them all with the salvage boat, much more efficient, you just need to time it out so wrecks don't start to disappear on you before salvage.

auto targeting missiles and/or sentry drones. pretty easy to semi afk missions, and probably make more than you would mining in highsec.

I'm just going to mention from heavy experience but even if you have alt accounts and truck through lvl 4s, it still gets boring. A lot of isk to make but then you have to do something with it. Get an active corp, soloing isn't everything. Enjoy your experience in this game with others.

I'd like to know where you're finding roids that last for more then a couple cycles with boosts. With a fully maxed out mack with full boosts (meaning two accounts) you're looking at maybe 19m an hour with perfect refine and nice mineral prices. That's with two accounts running and no AFKIng. Now if you just mine with two macks it's more like 23-25m an hour. Of course that requires your full attention so you don't waste a single cycle or waste time on an "empty roid". You will have to cut cycles short according to roid content. There's no going afk for 20minutes in this scenario.

Now if you go afk for 20 minutes you're looking at a max of about 10m an isk an hour with heavy buffs or about 16m an hour with two clients. You'll be wasting a lot of cycles on roids that prematurely ended before the cycle completes. You'll also be wasting a lot of time with idle strip miners.

Now if you can find some huge plag roids then you'll do better numbers then I listed for the afk method but the first numbers are pretty hard to beat without a magical field of rich plag.


Meanwhile if you used those two accounts to run level 4s you're looking at +40m an hour depending on skills and your abilities.

I personally max out around 90m an hour doing missions but I have mutliple clients and well geared characters/ships.


The naga is not effective in level 4s solo. Neither is the drake really as it's dps is either too low to clear quickly or the tank is too small to handle some of the rooms (if you go heavy dps). I'd highly suggest a raven over either of those options for 4s. With a drake I'd go heavy gank and run the level 3s as fast as possible to build up the cash to get into a BS. You can do 4s in a drake it's just not as efficient as banging out groups of 3s quickly.

I am not aware of a guide as I figured that out on my own via tracking the various datapoints.