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I'm with you on this dude.

What percentage of the player base is actually going to use this, I doubt that it is even 1%.

For me I can't see any use for it in my game play.

I can see it's uses for EveUni showing people how to do things, but most of the useful Videos are already on YouTube (along with a heap of unuseful ones :) ).

Frankly I had never even heard of Twitch prior to CCP broadcasting Fanfest through it. And the only time I go back to the site is when CCP broadcast something else. Apart from the Alliance Tournaments cause that **** is boring as.

TLDR: A Complete Waste of Dev Resources as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think I agree. Maybe there won't be live streams of all 7500 systems, but I bet the larger alliances will employ cloaky alts live streaming from all the gates bordering their territory. Why bore a dozen players to gate camp when one guy can monitor a dozen gates instead? I'm betting the road between Amarr and Jita will be live-streamed. Certainly all the hubs. I'm seeing the potential for educational streams and tutorial videos sure, but once this really takes off, the potential for reconnaissance and intel are almost limitless. This could become a game-changer. Merc corps contracted to pod specific targets can live-stream the attack back to their clients. Every freighter moving anywhere could potentially be tagged and an intercept party dispatched from one guy loading streams on the opposite end of the galaxy. We could witness the birth of corps entirely devoted to surveillance. I've barely scratched the surface and my brain runs wild with potential scenarios. I've yet to see a tool introduced in this game that wasn't used, abused, and made to function in unexpected ways. And given the ways I've already dreamt up this could possibly be used, I can't wait to see what happens. This is potentially one of the most-powerful tools ever introduced into the client and pretty damn exciting, imo.

YK

1) Those corps already exist (and probably vanished when they realized what it entailed)
2) doing that is BORING AS F**K
3) It would take A LOT of isk to make people commit to that. Even that won't be enough because you cannot AFK that. You have to Actively stare at the screen to see who comes in/out, then figure out who the person is (can't click on their name and see in a stream), and then relay that info to someone who cares.

I don't know if you've ever done surveillance before, but it is time consuming, intel heavy, and boring as hell. This is not infiltration or intel gathering, this is watching someone's afk ALT sit on a gate for 9 hours straight. I can easily tell you this. If someone (or even multiple someones) put up live streams of 20, 30, 40 gates... so what. The entire eve universe now knows Where the Damn camp is, and can either go around, or go kill them. No more running around 30+ systems looking for pew, someone just put there gatecamp on twitch, Onward.

But that is the exciting part. I believe your concern is the random alt streamer. Remember that this isn't some entertaining streaming broadcast, this is some alt, sitting cloaked off a gate for the sole purpose to see who jumps in, and streaming that online.

Now the potential is there for making people quit a corporation if they attempt to mandate something that silly. You would have to......

1) Have to have people actually actively watching all 20, 30, 40 streams all the time to see who comes in and out
2) Hope those people have enough braincells to a) Tag the person, b) Get the name, c) communicate that someones jump in, d) have people in their intel channel actually give a damn.

Like I said, nothing stopped people from doing this, and there are not enough people that would commit the time and accounts just to live stream a few systems 24/7 (or even 8 hours a day). Ontop of that, have people watching it all the time. The threats aren't from 1 or 2 people running through a gate, it's from 300 to 400 people running through a gate. And in all honesty, you would probably know WAY before then that they were coming anyway.

oh wait.. they can Jump Bridge, Titan Bridge, and Utilize wormholes to get to places too....

You want to draft a memorandum to send out to an alliance dictating that each and every person (or maybe just each and every recruit) you have must watch these 20+ streams and report who comes in for 8 hours straight 5 days a week... and you'll have one empty as fk alliance. I'm sure people will try, but the more people try to dictate eve as a 9 to 5 job, the more people will vanish because the directors of the corp and alliance just turned their game into a job.

CTA's is one thing, stating that you have to monitor a bunch of streams and report every tom **** and harry that jumps into a system or you'll be awox'd, kicked, demoted, etc...

Good luck enforcing something like that. Kiss all your players goodbye.

This is self promotion of eve, a good teaching tool, maybe someone will show some fights we don't normally see.

But that is about it.

You're talking as if streaming was impossible before this. If there was any significant strategic value for the effort required, people would already be doing it.

P.S. using paragraphs makes you look like you passed elementary school.

It may have been possible before, but it wasn't practical. With every account being able to stream directly from the client, it does become practical. It adds an ability that did not previously exist without 3rd party software. Whether a network of live streams is eventually employed along New Eden's most-trafficked routes, during wardecs, or for any number of special circumstances, remains to be seen, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me to learn that the players took a tool given to them and used it in an unconventional manner.

And if you don't like the way I format my responses, cupcake, don't read them. Your validation was not solicited. I write maybe 4-5 times a month on these forums and I certainly do not do so to appease the anal retentive grammar police.

YK

From the devblog, streaming simply required implementing the Twitch SDK into EVE. This is much much less programmer work than designing and integrating a full separate application into the client. CCP didn't have to build a full streaming client from the ground up.

CCP should also add an integrated operating system, industrial crane controller, and a coffee maker.

I'm not sure if i want CCP to waste dev-hours working on things that nobody will use because it is half baked and ppl will still use OBS (or other) to stream.

especially when there are so many things broken in game

ex: half my fleet was caught "jumping" for 5 minutes yestarday night (a 8 man fleet, i don't watn to know what happen for big fleets of hundreds we hear about sometimes, system not even able to handle 8.....).

on their screen: jump animation loop.

they were still on the system, lockable (and so, killable) but without any control.

some needed to log out and back 2-5 times to actually be able to get control back on their ships.

pretty sure if they ost anything, i already know CCP answer would have been "everything went normal"

FIX your game, then yes, you can waste time on such things.... BUT NOT TILL IT'S DONE FFS

Hmmm. If you can record video, you also should be able to watch the record and/or the stream. We have IGB which wasn't upgraded for years.

Damn. I have a strong impression that some devs have absolutely nothing to do. If you don't know how to kill time, go revamp the pos system.
Or, if you sincerely want to do something not-so-needed - integrate Teamspeak into eve instead of the crappy eve voice. Even devs have problems using eve voice, not mentioning the players.

Can we get a free sofa with every ship too?!