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Dev blog: Twitch integration is here!

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Viktor Kyon
ROYAL.
#41 - 2013-12-09 19:01:00 UTC
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
Kal Woki
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-12-09 19:08:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Kal Woki
you could always charge $1.95/month for a more complete product, cancel anytime

xsplit is around $3.33 but you need to money down 18 months worth ($59.95)
Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
#43 - 2013-12-09 19:17:53 UTC
Hikaru Kuroda wrote:
Amazing but... duuuuuude, your overview.

How do you manage to fly?


you must be new here, ccp dont really play eve Pirate

there's so many thing to fix in eve.... and they fix forum ! GJ! but ok i like it !

CCP Fozzie : AFK cloaking, however, is an entirely social form of power
roigon
TURN LEFT
#44 - 2013-12-09 19:41:53 UTC
What kind of extra load are we to expect when using this? I've done tests with OBS and the encoding can be quite heavy at higher bitrates.
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#45 - 2013-12-09 19:57:17 UTC
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your viewers can give you questions, offer feedback on the stream or simply tell you to ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ Drink the Water ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ



Well Played Blink



This is an excellent addition to EVE and I look forward to the death montages in a few weeks Pirate

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom."
Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#46 - 2013-12-09 20:09:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Destoya
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ SOV CHANGES or RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
Schwein Hosen
DuckPus Fightclub
#47 - 2013-12-09 20:47:28 UTC
You do realize how many streams there are going to be of people looking at porn on the igb right?
I'm not gonna be that guy, but I'm just saying, this is a 'TTP = INSTANTANEOUS!' feature you've created here.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-12-09 21:45:39 UTC
Twitch-based combat? IN MY EVE?
Oxylan
Blood Fanatics
#49 - 2013-12-09 22:31:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Oxylan
I like Mad Anie 24/7 eve online stram service, we can to expect more massive cams deploy and spy in every null space system, waching everyone and everywhere :) espetialy while twitch become more popular and natural things in EvE community.

This thing got a lot pros and cons.

EvE may turn onto EvE online wach instead of play...

If it bleed we can kill it.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#50 - 2013-12-09 22:44:40 UTC
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Maintaining an mp3 player inside EVE, while there are much better media players out there doesn‘t make much sense to us. Keep in mind that all code in EVE needs to be maintained. UIs are upgraded, codecs need upgrading, code is refactored, defects need to be resolved. By removing redundant pieces of code from our codebase, we free up engineering time to maintain, iterate and develop other features which are more important and core to the spaceship game EVE. As we move forward with EVE development, iterating and adding features, we have to be ready to cut off dead branches and prune our garden so to speak.

This is what you guys said approximately a year ago.

The rhetoric still holds true, the most important features (delayed streaming, blacking out certain sections of the screen) are impossible as you have researched or just haven't been done yet in this iteration of the client, while there are third-party streaming programs which are much, much better.

There are real reasons why people don't stream EVE. Not having the proper streaming tools is not one of them at this point in time.
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#51 - 2013-12-09 23:41:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
Ok a few notes regarding this (was goofing around with it for a few minutes).

1) the 1920 by 1080 is an issue. I maxed it out at 1600, it window mode the game (did not mess with the PC resolution, which is good).

2) it does not stream whats in the background of your stream (it windowed the view, but I had a 2nd instance of eve running in the background, it did not bleed through.

3) The quality is a little unexpected, but its probably just my pipe, as I don't have a 100 upload (I believe this connection is only a 5 up), oddly enough it works ok.

4) The lag time from ingame doing, to what is shown, is roughly 5 to 7 seconds. There is no noticeable ingame lag.

For showing your friends, or just doing some quick stream for the heck of it (ingame blob fight and you decided to just fly in and blow people up is good).

Text is legible. Quality is ok. There was no noticeable ingame lag. Resolution can be an issue (my only real gripe).

Unless you want people reading your messages ingame, you'll have to minimize the menu. Then again if you are about to do a intel sensitive operation, why the hell are you live streaming instead of recording?

Please change the following.

1) When you login to twitch from the ingame option, please instantly minimize the twitch login screen, as it shows your twitch username (realistically not an issue, but it also shows the length of your password).

2) When minimized in the rightside menu, could you permit a rightclick of it, and a small dropdown menu saying "Disconnect?". It would help protect possible attempts of hacking from people's possible password leaks (its Minor, but helpful).

3) Really try to get 1920 by 1080 working in twitch, it is Uncomfortable running the game at a lower resolution on the monitors some of us run.

If you are concerned about a few things (such as where you are/where your going, I would suggest ccp initiate some method of blacking out parts of text from twitch (that would probably take more resources than necessary)). This is meant to be a way to stream cool interesting things, not a method for becoming a professional broadcaster. With that in mind.

1) Minimize the twitch login screen once logged in
2) Rightclick/Disconnect from twitch without bringing up the login menu
3) Attempt to get 1920 by 1080 working.

Other than that, it works (least for me).

Yaay!!!!
Elmore Jones
New Eden Mining Organisation
The Craftsmen
#52 - 2013-12-09 23:43:22 UTC
Oxylan wrote:
I like Mad Anie 24/7 eve online stram service, we can to expect more massive cams deploy and spy in every null space system, waching everyone and everywhere :) espetialy while twitch become more popular and natural things in EvE community.

This thing got a lot pros and cons.

EvE may turn onto EvE online wach instead of play...


What we want is streaming to the CQ screen so we can sit on our asses watching our avatar sit on its ass watching a stream of ourselves from behind.....

+++ Reality Error 404 - Reboot Cosmos +++
Chiimera
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-12-09 23:44:58 UTC
One of these things was said before but:

1. Archiving is disabled by default i.e it needs to be turned on in the settings
2. Private/passworded streams are not available at this time
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#54 - 2013-12-09 23:49:53 UTC
Oxylan wrote:
I like Mad Anie 24/7 eve online stram service, we can to expect more massive cams deploy and spy in every null space system, waching everyone and everywhere :) espetialy while twitch become more popular and natural things in EvE community.

This thing got a lot pros and cons.

EvE may turn onto EvE online wach instead of play...


And indeed it will. With that said. If there are people that want to stream 3000+ systems, go for it.

If there are people that want to search twitch's new 3000+ streams just to find a guy in local to kill.. go for it too.

Spies in local and a Spy showing something in local provides about as much intel as checking the overview for "Jumps per hour", "Ships destroyed per hour", "People docked in station", etc. Ontop of that... they could do that now Anyway.

I don't see it doing much besides giving people the opportunity to show the game off to a few friends, do some recordings streams, having fun, teaching people stuff, maybe some spying, showing off a bombing run, some giant blob, etc.

Its like people with cellphone cameras at a concert. Assuming a concert allowed anytype of recording device (rare but lets say they are fine with whatever you want to bring to record if you so choose to) Before the cellphones, people would jump up and down and watch the excitement. Now with cellphones, people just jump up and down and watch the excitement live through there cellphones while they are already there. Considering they could have done that by bringing in a camcorder before. The only difference is the quality of the recording.

I know its a bad analogy, but twitch integration does not do a damn thing that people could not already do.

Yaay!!!!
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2013-12-09 23:54:34 UTC
Liu Ellens wrote:
Max Kolonko wrote:
So far my tests (last time i tested it few days ago) show that video is available during stream but cant find it after i switch it off. Are those videos stream only or are they stored on twitch to watch later?

twitch.tv stopped auto-archiving of streams. You have to manually enable this in your twitch account settings ( http://www.twitch.tv/settings/videos -> Archive Broadcasts) - Then they will be available.


thx

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Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#56 - 2013-12-09 23:56:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
Chiimera wrote:
One of these things was said before but:

1. Archiving is disabled by default i.e it needs to be turned on in the settings
2. Private/passworded streams are not available at this time


Found the archive.

Yaay!!!!
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-12-09 23:56:37 UTC
Elmore Jones wrote:
Oxylan wrote:
I like Mad Anie 24/7 eve online stram service, we can to expect more massive cams deploy and spy in every null space system, waching everyone and everywhere :) espetialy while twitch become more popular and natural things in EvE community.

This thing got a lot pros and cons.

EvE may turn onto EvE online wach instead of play...


What we want is streaming to the CQ screen so we can sit on our asses watching our avatar sit on its ass watching a stream of ourselves from behind.....


this ^^

Read and support: Don't mess with OUR WH's What is Your stance on WH stuff?
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#58 - 2013-12-10 00:01:39 UTC
Probably my own error for trying, but shouldn't this be going to Twitch.tv, not Justin.tv?

Yaay!!!!
MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#59 - 2013-12-10 02:29:51 UTC
I don't know if anyone else has said this yet, but CHAT INTEGRATION.

If you could integrate the stream chat into the client in some manner, this feature would be god-tier rather than just ******* excellent like it is right now.Blink

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helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-12-10 03:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: helana Tsero
Abramul wrote:
Any chance of being able to watch the streams from in-client? We have that nice big screen in CQ, after all.


This ! Let us watch twitch streams in our CQ on the screens ! (therefore preventing the CQ from being totaly useless !)

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