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Ezekiel Ironstone
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2013-12-09 15:19:45 UTC
OP: Just chill and learn some patience. CCP is going to drop the sec status in high-sec in the future. It's already been confirmed in a recent interview. ( http://www.usgamer.net/articles/what-are-ccp-games-future-plans-for-eve-online )

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What is their plan, both short and long, for high sec? Is it their intent to make EVE just one big null sec area?

Mm hmm. High security space is obviously a huge and key part of EVE. We've talked a lot in our discussions about the future vision of EVE and what we're doing with Rubicon and beyond. We're not going to start taking away consequences from everyone's actions. High security space will continue to be very different than other areas of space. No space in EVE is entirely safe, but we want to make sure that high security space feels very different from null sec.


I don't know about outside the US, but "Mm hmm" is a positive confirmation. A "yes" answer to the question that was posed.

So if people would just be patient, you'll get all the targets you could ever want in the near future.
Cazador 64
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-12-09 15:30:07 UTC
Dont UseYourAlt OnTheForums wrote:
Guys, serious post reporting in,.. We need to do something about the dull environment in eve at the moment, especially in highsec.

People is bored and demotivated, we need to create some chaos here for some rejuvenation on the community.

WE NEED WARS AND KILLS AND DRAMA!!!

Yes, I know you as a carebear will disagree but we know better, we know what you need better than yourself, so you must trust us when we kill you it is only for your own good.


Seriously, Im not even kidding, highsec needs a complete revamp in terms of destruction.



If any of you can come with couple setups and or ideas for what can be done please mind to share it.


Lets HELP highsec to reborn from the dull it has became.

Posting in a stealth eve is dying thread?
Nimrod vanHall
Van Mij Belastingvrij
#43 - 2013-12-09 15:37:02 UTC
Cazador 64 wrote:
Dont UseYourAlt OnTheForums wrote:
Guys, serious post reporting in,.. We need to do something about the dull environment in eve at the moment, especially in highsec.

People is bored and demotivated, we need to create some chaos here for some rejuvenation on the community.

WE NEED WARS AND KILLS AND DRAMA!!!

Yes, I know you as a carebear will disagree but we know better, we know what you need better than yourself, so you must trust us when we kill you it is only for your own good.


Seriously, Im not even kidding, highsec needs a complete revamp in terms of destruction.



If any of you can come with couple setups and or ideas for what can be done please mind to share it.


Lets HELP highsec to reborn from the dull it has became.

Posting in a stealth eve is dying thread?


EvE is not dead untill it stops dying ;)
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-12-09 15:47:19 UTC
Ezekiel Ironstone wrote:
OP: Just chill and learn some patience. CCP is going to drop the sec status in high-sec in the future. It's already been confirmed in a recent interview. ( http://www.usgamer.net/articles/what-are-ccp-games-future-plans-for-eve-online )

Quote:
What is their plan, both short and long, for high sec? Is it their intent to make EVE just one big null sec area?

Mm hmm. High security space is obviously a huge and key part of EVE. We've talked a lot in our discussions about the future vision of EVE and what we're doing with Rubicon and beyond. We're not going to start taking away consequences from everyone's actions. High security space will continue to be very different than other areas of space. No space in EVE is entirely safe, but we want to make sure that high security space feels very different from null sec.


I don't know about outside the US, but "Mm hmm" is a positive confirmation. A "yes" answer to the question that was posed.

So if people would just be patient, you'll get all the targets you could ever want in the near future.


Read the bold part of your quote and then tell em why you think high sec is going away.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#45 - 2013-12-09 15:55:39 UTC
Ezekiel Ironstone wrote:
OP: Just chill and learn some patience. CCP is going to drop the sec status in high-sec in the future. It's already been confirmed in a recent interview. ( http://www.usgamer.net/articles/what-are-ccp-games-future-plans-for-eve-online )

Quote:
What is their plan, both short and long, for high sec? Is it their intent to make EVE just one big null sec area?

Mm hmm. High security space is obviously a huge and key part of EVE. We've talked a lot in our discussions about the future vision of EVE and what we're doing with Rubicon and beyond. We're not going to start taking away consequences from everyone's actions. High security space will continue to be very different than other areas of space. No space in EVE is entirely safe, but we want to make sure that high security space feels very different from null sec.


I don't know about outside the US, but "Mm hmm" is a positive confirmation. A "yes" answer to the question that was posed.

So if people would just be patient, you'll get all the targets you could ever want in the near future.



How you can quote that big block, focus entirely on an undefined throat sound and turn it into a 'yes' for the question asked while completely skipping the rest, is really beyond me.

Unless you're trolling of course and I just took the bait. Sad
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#46 - 2013-12-09 16:18:00 UTC
Ezekiel Ironstone wrote:
OP: Just chill and learn some patience. CCP is going to drop the sec status in high-sec in the future. It's already been confirmed in a recent interview. ( http://www.usgamer.net/articles/what-are-ccp-games-future-plans-for-eve-online )

Quote:
What is their plan, both short and long, for high sec? Is it their intent to make EVE just one big null sec area?

Mm hmm. High security space is obviously a huge and key part of EVE. We've talked a lot in our discussions about the future vision of EVE and what we're doing with Rubicon and beyond. We're not going to start taking away consequences from everyone's actions. High security space will continue to be very different than other areas of space. No space in EVE is entirely safe, but we want to make sure that high security space feels very different from null sec.


I don't know about outside the US, but "Mm hmm" is a positive confirmation. A "yes" answer to the question that was posed.

So if people would just be patient, you'll get all the targets you could ever want in the near future.


Conquerable high sec stations, which immediately turns into under the control of the null sec cartels, on the way.
Null sec cartels will not be able to lock people out of a station, but will control the refining taxes, the mission tax rates, and the max slot rates. Gotta buff those income streams to the null sec cartel leaders.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#47 - 2013-12-09 16:19:53 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


Conquerable high sec stations, which immediately turns into under the control of the null sec cartels, on the way.
Null sec cartels will not be able to lock people out of a station, but will control the refining taxes, the mission tax rates, and the max slot rates. Gotta buff those income streams to the null sec cartel leaders.


If true, then you miss the point

But then

That's the single most popular sport in EvE

Missing the point

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#48 - 2013-12-09 16:20:48 UTC
N3, the coalition that exists to destroy...???

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Ezekiel Ironstone
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2013-12-09 16:33:42 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:


How you can quote that big block, focus entirely on an undefined throat sound and turn it into a 'yes' for the question asked while completely skipping the rest, is really beyond me.

Unless you're trolling of course and I just took the bait. Sad


The question was whether or not CCP is going to make high-sec into a null-sec space. His short answer was an affirmative. The extended answer was more likely to cover his own skin for blurting out the short answer.

The answer, overall, when you narrow it down was "Yes. Maybe." However his initial answer was "yes".

Thanks to alts and the like, statistics get really skewed as far as who the main playerbase is in Eve. The majority of players in Eve are the hardcore PvP players. Mining and industry were built into Eve in order to attract cannon fodder.
For years now Eve has been profitable enough that CCP has had money to waste on other projects, so the game is self sufficient based on the income of the majority of players (the PvP players).
Their orchestration of the great gank of 2013 is proof of many things, one of them being that CCP doesn't need to care about what high-sec carebears think of the game, and that they can easily afford to lose their subs.

High-sec remaining substantialy different from null-sec doesn't unilaterally confirm that the system's sec status will remain. It just states that high-sec will be different. Whether it be the faction navy's remaining to control gate activity, or the empires retaining control of stations, it doesn't prevent CONCORD from being removed, nor does it prevent high-sec from becoming a glorified NPC Null-sec.

Affirming that CCP intends to make high-sec into a "different" null-sec indicates that they are planning, among other things, to remove CONCORD.

PvP players just need to be patient. They are going to get everything they've dreamed of.
Rekon X
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-12-09 17:20:11 UTC
0.0 the whole map.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#51 - 2013-12-09 20:31:29 UTC
Rekon X wrote:
0.0 the whole map.



0.0 would be pretty near the number of players remaining if hi-sec (Concord) was turned over to the ego-maniacs from null.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2013-12-09 20:43:34 UTC
Vicky Somers wrote:
Dont UseYourAlt OnTheForums wrote:
Seriously, Im not even kidding, highsec needs a complete revamp


Can't say I disagree with this. As a starting zone for new players, it teaches noobs nothing about local, dscan and standings. I don't know how they should do it, but high sec should teach and force people to use local, dscan and standings to survive just like in other parts of EVE. I'm positive if that were the case, we'd see a lot more people moving outside of boring and repetitive grinds and comfort zones.

/agree
Also, wardeccing and griefing corps need to work on recruiting new players more actively.

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2013-12-09 20:57:45 UTC
Dont UseYourAlt OnTheForums wrote:
Yes, I know you as a carebear will disagree but we know better, we know what you need better than yourself, so you must trust us when we kill you it is only for your own good.


We? Imperial Academy?

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Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-12-09 21:40:35 UTC
OP- Hi sec is not exactly conducive to wars with the current mechanics. However, rest assured that there will be more changes to increase the opportunity for more player interactions.
Oxylan
Blood Fanatics
#55 - 2013-12-10 02:16:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Oxylan
Dont UseYourAlt OnTheForums wrote:
Guys, serious post reporting in,.. We need to do something about the dull environment in eve at the moment, especially in highsec.

People is bored and demotivated, we need to create some chaos here for some rejuvenation on the community.

WE NEED WARS AND KILLS AND DRAMA!!!




Emmm, realy highsec ? i just roaming 3 day long in Goonswarm and Fatal Ascention sov area, just to get some view on this area and how it looks, totaly empty constalation "taurus" region Fountain, i saw like few people in local in like 10 systems tru whole pipe, in three day long period ... looks like empty 0.0 need more love and drama than high sec.


Open map, select ship destroyed last hour, look at empire center and next at null area... Wired... most action and kills are in empire instead of 0.0 where some result show probably destroyed amount of poor cyno figates near stations who drop haul services, phatetic and sad, pure myth about dangerus place...

To the point bring more drama in bored 0.0 where damn nullbears living years long in peace Roll

If it bleed we can kill it.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#56 - 2013-12-10 02:49:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
1) For wars to have meaning and be prosecuted with a grand strategy, you have to have both reasons to fight and mechanics for territorial conquest that encourage said strategies.

2) Also, "Grrrrrr, Hi Sec... it's ruining Null". Roll

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#57 - 2013-12-10 02:54:47 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
1) For wars to have meaning and be prosecuted with a grand strategy, you have to have both reasons to fight and mechanics for territorial conquest that encourage said strategies.

2) Also, "Grrrrrr, Hi Sec... it's ruining Null". Roll

also, a coalition that exists to go only where there is action

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Karrl Tian
Doomheim
#58 - 2013-12-10 06:13:25 UTC
Bobby Frutt wrote:
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
now post with your main characters and explain why whatever you do in -50 sec is so boring you think you are so incompetent that you need to gank miners in high sec in order to get kill mails.

Let's say you were the OP, and you posted this with your main.

If I were a jackass, I'd hire mercs to wardec your corp for a month. I'd hire some gankers to hound you. I'd then send you a message, "this is why you don't post anything remotely controversial with your main".

I'm not a jackass so you'd be safe from me, but guess what? You wouldn't be safe from the rest of these vile creatures that inhabit this game.


I hired a bunch of mercs/gankers to hound a guy once for his controversial opinions. They quit when they learned he lived outside highsec.
Spurty
#59 - 2013-12-10 06:22:00 UTC
Hop into interceptor and go ... Anywhere you damn well please for jollies.

Do something other than post moaning threads on forums

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And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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Hairtrigger
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-12-10 13:09:51 UTC
nothin i miss more than the new war decs goin live on a fri night with privateers-10k at least war targets to go at per week-especially when deccin the big alliances.

never a dull moment on the mad/nia gate