EVE General Discussion

Hello all,

I have been thinking about making a post like this for a while now and finally decided to go ahead and do it.

It seems to me CCP's main plan to promote streaming is to make the Twitch integration for Eve Online. While this may ofcourse make it easier for more people to stream, it is also a way to get a dozen small streams up at any time, that have nothing interesting to watch. I am not saying small streams are not interesting! I am just afraid that the only thing we will get is people streaming that don't even look at their twitch chat. Don't interact with their viewers etc. Or we will get a dozen intel cams as our main streams, which can be handy, but doesn't do much for the streaming community I think.

I just want to invite everybody to take a look at the current streamers to get an idea for what you like to see in streams and what you don't find interesting. I am always surprised when new streamers never watched any of the other Eve streams to see how you can run an eve stream.

I would love it if CCP would do something more to promote streaming, like having a featured stream up in game, or on the launcher, or on the website somewhere. Perhaps they can endorse streamers that do a good job with a "CCP likes this stream"-rating. They could run a highlight competition, Keep track of how often people stream and give them a T-Shirt for that. Have an interview with current streamers to ask them for the "secrets" to a good stream and building a viewer community. I don't care what they do, as long as something is done.

I hope everybody who will be streaming once the new twitch integration is released, will watch other great eve streams like:
http://www.twitch.tv/sirsqueebles, Pvp stream, with a lot of viewer roams. Mostly cruisers and up. Also regular events like "For fits and Giggles", "Dungeons and Dragoons", "Miner Inconvenience low sec roam with orca's" and most recent a freighter roam through lowsec.
http://www.twitch.tv/lokoforloki, Pvp stream, a lot of frigate action, though zao has lately been going for bigger ships as well
http://www.twitch.tv/rushlock, Stream with a big focus on answering questions for newer players
http://www.twitch.tv/malik_fett, Pvp Stream. Mostly solo with a lot of different ship. Bit inactive at the moment.
http://www.twitch.tv/fintarue, Solo frigate pvp, while listening to music and participating in Trivia on KFIN 0.4 radiostation

Or you can even watch me. I am sure I forgot a lot of streams here, but all these people are very active streamers and have a lot of interaction with the twitch chat. Which for me is what makes a stream interesting. I hope everybody who wants to stream can figure out what they find interesting and incorporate that in their stream, so we can get a good streamining community going.

By the way, downloading and setting up OBS should only take about 5 minutes, so nothing is holding you back to try making a stream before we get the Twitch integration.

Have fun and hopefully see you on Twitch,

Carka

Edited as requested by Rushlock

This is what I wrote. So I am not saying Intel streams are not useful, they just don't build a community. They are just tools, not entertainment in my opinion.

Regards,

Carka

Thanks for your opinion Roime. If you feel like that, just don't watch! And preferably don't make troll posts like this as well.

Regards,

Carka

Whats the issue? Its like TV. Then they add it to CQ. A Nobrainer.

Twitch integration is cancer. Even when forced to use the likes of XSplit/OBS, many streams are trash, and lowering the barrier to entry certainly isn't going to help matters. I had a look at the streams being generated by the PS4's integration and it made me want to kill myself (possibly slight hyperbole there, but you get the idea).

BTW OP, it's http://www.twitch.tv/lokoforloki (you dun typo'd), and I too highly recommend his stream.



Reading a forum for a video game is so ********, the only thing more ******** is believing that someone wants to read what you have to say about a videogame.

Sorry i dont see anything but pro's to this, ppl can use it to promote there corp an at same time promote eve, yes there will be rubbish streams so what?, what is necessarily interesting to you or me might not be to the next person and what you consider to be rubbish stream might be what that 1 hesitant new customer to eve needs to see to tip them over to joining.

Again i say what you consider to be a good stream others will not and what you consider to be a crap stream others could an possibly will enjoy

Still no closer to knowing what the problem is that integration isnt the solution to.

Is it lack of content?

Where as i say give it a go tweak to your own tastes and stream to your own liking, dont just go watch someone else stream an copy/paste what there doing, hopefully with the integration ppl will find twitch hell of a lot more accessible and easy to navigate if they never already and hopefully we see alot more diverse and interesting aspects of eve life being portrait.

I can't see any negatives in CCP making streaming easy. Having a larger pool of people streaming means you have a larger pool to draw the talent from and create more variety in the types of streams, which in turn will get more people interested in watching. People will naturally gravitate towards the good and already popular streams like they do in all services of this kind. It also doesn't matter if the first weeks of a new streamer are just bad quality boring drivel. One of two things will happen, either they'll improve themselves or be forgotten and ignored. There is no need for CCP to manage things, although there is no harm in highlighting the good stuff either. The natural behavior of the community will act as a self correcting mechanism.

If a stream has terrible content no one will watch or they will stop watching it fairly quickly, it's simply a form of supply vs demand. Good quality streams will survive, bad ones will be forgotten. We don't need regulation or policing.