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Drone files for divorce from husband !

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2013-12-11 17:07:01 UTC
Arkady Vachon wrote:

So, you get to be a custom corporate drone yourself?


Custom? Yes.
Corporate? Isn't everyone?
Drone? Doesn't anybody outside the State work for a large company? Everyone makes it sound like being a Corporate employee comes with a free lobotomy!

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-12-11 17:58:58 UTC
Arkady Vachon wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
How one can marry a drone...


Some people like a companion you can program? Weird, but true.

Yes, very true, and not just with drone spouses. Many have tried. All have failed.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2013-12-11 18:01:04 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Arkady Vachon wrote:

So, you get to be a custom corporate drone yourself?


Custom? Yes.
Corporate? Isn't everyone?
Drone? Doesn't anybody outside the State work for a large company? Everyone makes it sound like being a Corporate employee comes with a free lobotomy!


That's an incredibly hyperbolic argument, Pieter.

No one here thinks a Caldari corporation would give away anything for free.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-12-11 18:48:53 UTC
Muck Raker wrote:
In one of the more unusual cases heard by Federal courts, a companion drone has filed for divorce from her husband!

Incredible!

The drone alleges unreasonable behaviour by her husband, and claims that her requirement for repairs and maintenance is substantially higher than that of similar companion drones.


So... just to make sure I understand the drones case here... she is filing for divorce because she straight up admits she is a defective drone? As a defect, her mental subroutines are clearly suspect. Were I her husband, I would submit he make a claim under the warranty, as such warranty's typically last around 5 years. The drone manufacturer could be held liable in this case.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2013-12-11 19:27:52 UTC
Pontianak Sythaeryn wrote:
Muck Raker wrote:
In one of the more unusual cases heard by Federal courts, a companion drone has filed for divorce from her husband!

Incredible!

The drone alleges unreasonable behaviour by her husband, and claims that her requirement for repairs and maintenance is substantially higher than that of similar companion drones.


So... just to make sure I understand the drones case here... she is filing for divorce because she straight up admits she is a defective drone? As a defect, her mental subroutines are clearly suspect. Were I her husband, I would submit he make a claim under the warranty, as such warranty's typically last around 5 years. The drone manufacturer could be held liable in this case.


I would just point out that no other woman can be divorced for being 'high maintenance'. If doing so were possible I suspect the number of married women would drop precipitously.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#26 - 2013-12-11 19:44:19 UTC
Well, I thought the implication was that she required more maintenance due to overly high usage, and requires more repairs due to abnormal usage.

If you were to use say, a ground car as an example. Most people that have a ground car, use it to go to and from their workplace, the shops, visits to family and so forth, while generally adhering to the speed limits and driving normally. That pattern of use has a known maintenance schedule.
If, instead, you take that ground car, and go illegal street racing with it, or indeed, legal racing, then that would place an extra maintenance requirement on the vehicle. If you used that ground car to e.g. tow heavy objects, or carry heavy loads, then that places a different additional maintenance requirement on the vehicle.

And that's maintenance. Repairs are something different. Repairs imply damage caused by misuse. A ground car requires no repairs unless it is damaged in some way - running into things, being run into.

So, the drone is alleging she is being excessively worn out and/or damaged by her husband's behaviour, which she is claiming to be unreasonable.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-12-11 20:28:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Pontianak Sythaeryn
Valerie Valate wrote:
And that's maintenance. Repairs are something different. Repairs imply damage caused by misuse. A ground car requires no repairs unless it is damaged in some way - running into things, being run into.

So, the drone is alleging she is being excessively worn out and/or damaged by her husband's behaviour, which she is claiming to be unreasonable.


That isn't what she claimed. she claimed

"claims that her requirement for repairs and maintenance is substantially higher than that of similar companion drones."

Unreasonable behavior was not properly defined and would need to be, and was put as a separate issue in the sentence regardless. There is no guesswork in law, the statement she made is what she made it, we are not to try and "interpret" what she said. If she wanted to charge he was not following the procedures outlined in her manual and outside of her normal operating parameters, then she would have directly said so. As she didn't, what you are stating is not admissible in the court of law.
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#28 - 2013-12-11 21:21:21 UTC
What a very strange situation.

Do mind that this is a news article and not the admissions made to the court - the esteemable Ms Valate presents a perfectly plausible postulate. I suggest an application of the principle of charitable interpretation and wish them both the very best in resolving this difference that has come between them.

I must say, I'm quite baffled by the whole situation. I had no idea that this was a thing.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-12-11 21:37:41 UTC
Arkady Vachon wrote:
I read quite well without them, thank you.

Okay, sorry about the tube crack. If you were born as a tube child, then no big deal. Hell, I was reborn through the recombinant process and infusion of DNA and RNA from my predecessor, just like several times before.

So, in that case, we were both born and shaped through somewhat controlled and artificial processes, it is what it is and we are who we are.

Do all gallentean jaijii are so stupid to speak about matters they have no a slightest idea about, like they know them, without bothering to ask first?..

And they ask me, why I hate them... they made it so themselves, each time they speak.

And no, unfortunately, I wasn't born in a controlled process.... but I bet you wouldn't be able to understand this anyway, so think whatever, jaijii.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-12-11 21:58:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Pontianak Sythaeryn
Diana Kim wrote:
Do all gallentean jaijii are so stupid to speak about matters they have no a slightest idea about, like they know them, without bothering to ask first?..


I'd say, as a Gallentean, that I find people speaking about matters they do not know about to be on par with the Caldari who do the same, as well as name call and make large racial assumptions of others they do not like.
Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#31 - 2013-12-11 22:46:57 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Arkady Vachon wrote:
I read quite well without them, thank you.

Okay, sorry about the tube crack. If you were born as a tube child, then no big deal. Hell, I was reborn through the recombinant process and infusion of DNA and RNA from my predecessor, just like several times before.

So, in that case, we were both born and shaped through somewhat controlled and artificial processes, it is what it is and we are who we are.

Do all gallentean jaijii are so stupid to speak about matters they have no a slightest idea about, like they know them, without bothering to ask first?..

And they ask me, why I hate them... they made it so themselves, each time they speak.

And no, unfortunately, I wasn't born in a controlled process.... but I bet you wouldn't be able to understand this anyway, so think whatever, jaijii.


That might have been why I put an 'if' Ms. Kim.

And frankly, you yammer on about stuff you have not the slightest clue about all the time, but maybe that's because everything that you have no clue about is not in your little pre-rehearsed Tibus Heth book of approved jingoistic phrases that you still cling to, is it?




Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#32 - 2013-12-12 16:46:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
As I understand it, CONCORD has barred development of 'strong AI', that is, AI which can learn and improve itself. This drone spouse's actions suggests some degree of strong AI. She's using AI not just to make intelligent decisions, but to learn about human social institutions and improve her own situation, vis a vis her human owner. Arguably, this is exactly the type of comminatory situation that the CONCORD prohibition envisioned, and strives to avoid.

Ergo, either of two conditions exist:
a) This drone is a sentient entity with strong AI, and is therefore existing illegally. Under the "clean hands" doctrine, a wrongdoer cannot bring a claim in court. The case should be dismissed for plaintiff's lack of legal standing. (And unfortunately, the purported plaintiff may face some investigation by CONCORD).

or

b) This drone is a machine with weak AI. In that case, as a non-sentient machine, she likely does not have legal standing to file a complaint to a court. Likewise, the case should be dismissed for want of legal standing.

I would hope that the homo sapien defendent's attorney has the competence to recognize these obvious issues. If not, as an attorney licensed by the Bar Association of the Gallente Federation, I may be available offer my services. Due to the pressing nature of this matter, I may be contacted directly, rather than through my receptionist staff.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-12-12 21:39:40 UTC
Arkady Vachon wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Arkady Vachon wrote:
I read quite well without them, thank you.

Okay, sorry about the tube crack. If you were born as a tube child, then no big deal. Hell, I was reborn through the recombinant process and infusion of DNA and RNA from my predecessor, just like several times before.

So, in that case, we were both born and shaped through somewhat controlled and artificial processes, it is what it is and we are who we are.

Do all gallentean jaijii are so stupid to speak about matters they have no a slightest idea about, like they know them, without bothering to ask first?..

And they ask me, why I hate them... they made it so themselves, each time they speak.

And no, unfortunately, I wasn't born in a controlled process.... but I bet you wouldn't be able to understand this anyway, so think whatever, jaijii.


That might have been why I put an 'if' Ms. Kim.

And frankly, you yammer on about stuff you have not the slightest clue about all the time, but maybe that's because everything that you have no clue about is not in your little pre-rehearsed Tibus Heth book of approved jingoistic phrases that you still cling to, is it?


I would really like to invite you for more private conversation.

Of course, IF you were twenty five times more educated and smarter than you are, I would be honored to share a cup of finest Caldari tea with you and talk about philosophical problems, like with polite and respectable human, who might been hiding all the time behind this ugly disrespectful and stupid jaijii mask. Otherwise, unfortunately, you will have to speak with my fist instead.

And IF you continue talking this way, you will have to speak with my jackboot.

Please note, that I have used "if" as well. Twice.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Pontianak Sythaeryn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-12-13 01:11:30 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I would be honored to share a cup of finest Caldari tea with you and talk about philosophical problems, like with polite and respectable human, who might been hiding all the time behind this ugly disrespectful and stupid jaijii mask. Otherwise, unfortunately, you will have to speak with my fist instead.

And IF you continue talking this way, you will have to speak with my jackboot.


I am trying to figure out why anybody that is educated, polite, and respectable would want to have such an intimate chat over tea (regardless of the quality or origin of said tea) with somebody that name calls and directs threats of physical violence on others they disagree with.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#35 - 2013-12-13 02:00:12 UTC
O how terrible shall be the End of Days for Companion Drones who divorce their husbands! For God has given each part of the world its proper place, to obey and be obeyed, as written in the Scriptures:

As Garrulor rules the skies; as Frisceas rules the sea;
As Emperor rules Holder; as Holder rules Serf;
Yet all under Heaven serve Me;
So shall Amarr rule the worlds of the Heavens.
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 3.19 - 3.21

Yet nowhere in the Scriptures do we find drone commanding husband. For this, God shall consign Companion Drones who divorce their husbands to the Pit, and for all eternity they shall be companion to the Demons. And the Companion Drones who divorce their husbands shall find the Demons to be very poor at repair and maintenance, indeed. Because God is just. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#36 - 2013-12-13 02:56:44 UTC
Pontianak Sythaeryn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I would be honored to share a cup of finest Caldari tea with you and talk about philosophical problems, like with polite and respectable human, who might been hiding all the time behind this ugly disrespectful and stupid jaijii mask. Otherwise, unfortunately, you will have to speak with my fist instead.

And IF you continue talking this way, you will have to speak with my jackboot.


I am trying to figure out why anybody that is educated, polite, and respectable would want to have such an intimate chat over tea (regardless of the quality or origin of said tea) with somebody that name calls and directs threats of physical violence on others they disagree with.

Just to put this in context, every village has its idiot... The store was out of quality ones that day, however, so we got stuck with Kim.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-12-13 04:45:42 UTC
Pontianak Sythaeryn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
I would be honored to share a cup of finest Caldari tea with you and talk about philosophical problems, like with polite and respectable human, who might been hiding all the time behind this ugly disrespectful and stupid jaijii mask. Otherwise, unfortunately, you will have to speak with my fist instead.

And IF you continue talking this way, you will have to speak with my jackboot.


I am trying to figure out why anybody that is educated, polite, and respectable would want to have such an intimate chat over tea (regardless of the quality or origin of said tea) with somebody that name calls and directs threats of physical violence on others they disagree with.

Maybe because I never resort to violence when I am dealing with polite, respectful, and simply educated and intelligent peoples. Including my superiors, of course.

But I have to say, that I indeed prefer to use violence against enemies of the State, against traitors, against those, who are too dumb to understand words, and against those, who prefer to attack me instead of talking. I mean, attacking on words as well, because fighting on words is not my profession. Fighting physically - yes.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#38 - 2013-12-13 04:50:38 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
... because fighting on words is not my profession ...


Perhaps that means it is time to stop posting.


Katrina Oniseki

Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#39 - 2013-12-13 05:10:23 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
For this, God shall consign Companion Drones who divorce their husbands to the Pit, and for all eternity they shall be companion to the Demons. And the Companion Drones who divorce their husbands shall find the Demons to be very poor at repair and maintenance, indeed. Because God is just. Amen. Amarr Victor.


Probably more efficient to consign a drone to the reprocessing center instead.

Not up to speed on this, what is the legal status of companion drones in the Federation these days?

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content

Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#40 - 2013-12-13 05:49:25 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
... because fighting on words is not my profession ...


Perhaps that means it is time to stop posting.



Or follow through on the countless number of toothless threats issued... But yes, Oniseki-haani, I'd prefer your solution.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117