Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I speak confidently on behalf of several others here when I say: you're making two and two equal five here Lucas. There is no foregone conclusion in your reasoning and simply repeating yourself won't create one.

Many people either dock up to swap ships, temporarily so the enemy leaves, or move systems. And no, the mastery is in maintaining a high enough level of efficiency that null stays economically viable.

lol, player interaction, i.e. combat pilots who want to kill things interacting with PVE players. It's not hard to see why a PVE player would opt against that encounter, it's a little one sided.

And avoidance is an absolute necessity to maintain PVE efficiency and to stop PVE players simply getting bored of getting ganked every day by someone too risk averse to fight someone with guns. I'll happily swap to a combat ship and fight pirates (that aren't in nullified cloaky T3s, which is usually what you get), but I see absolutely no reason why a PVE player should be forced to die simply because a PVP player chose to sneak up on them.

The way it is at the moment is balanced. A PVP player shows up, the PVE player has a chance to avoid combat. Now the PVP player doesn't get the kill, but the PVE player doesn't get to PVE. That is a balanced compromise. It's worked since the beginning of EVE and I don't think EVE will suddenly fall over if that continues.

I will never be in favour of an idea that tips that balance so certain builds of PVP ship are able to bypass the PVE players ability to avoid them and score the kill. That's essentially asking for large scale null PVE to be nerfed, which in turn means things like titans, and replacement fleets for 3000 people simply don't get built. Then any idea that leaves intel good enough to maintain the same level of avoidance would be a pointless change, since it wouldn't really change anything gameplay wise.

Honestly, I think it's a waste of time and the devs could be focussing on one of the many mechanics that could actually have a positive effect on the way the game plays all round.

Well, you're wrong. It's not my problem if you are unable to comprehend why the inability to see a player in any way until he is on grid with you would force PVP on a PVE player, but it would.
Read here for an explanation from someone else:
http://themittani.com/features/dont-touch-local

The portion you are looking for is:

Tryaz, is there any chance at all you could perhaps add your own content rather than just quoting what Nikk has already said?

I understand that you are heavily biased in your opinions and are quoting what people say inline with what you want in your main thread, but at could you put your own bias forward rather than just repeating someone else's.

Cheers.

Thank you but I've already read that article.

More hyperbole, no one is suggesting that!!!! Stop arriving at 5 it's exasperating!

The view is entirely a matter of perspective.

Oh so out of sight, out of mind eh?
You realise of course that doesn't mean it was never suggested.

As an economist, games with perfect information tend to bore the living Hell out of me.

Give me games of imperfect information any day...far more interesting.

Don't be a sore loser Lucas (really makes you look like a prat), you won that point.

Strange that you've withheld this particular view from your contribution to the discussion on this thread. Is this how you really feel? I put it to you that your pride is the main reason for your objection to all proposed changes to Local.