EVE General Discussion

as I'm less then a year in eve I try new activities from time to time. at any rate tried some exploration lately and it's lots of fun.. roaming around the universe and finding stuf etc...

but... High sec exploration is plain bad.. just horrible reward wise.

First we got anomalies which are around L1 mission without stnadings or LP.

then we got combat sites which are about L2 or something like that without LP or standings.

both of those are pretty annoying as the drops sucks big time best thing I got was 10 mil laser turret and that's about it.

I was very excited when I got my first data and archaeology sites but god they are bad....
the hacking mini game is nice but truly only way to fail it is on purpose, then some cans sprays around and if you had cargo scanner before you at least knows what and try to get first but well... each one of those netted me less then 300 k :X

even while I was mining in 1.0 with venture and 24 h mining skills I made more isk then that and without the hassle of scanning, also while on belts mining I get officer rat once in a while which sometimes drops implants and other goodies worth 100s of millions all while having fun pooling rocks easily.
Security and other missions are easy enough on high sec and you get LP + Standings which both are rewards in their own.
Trading will net a lot lot lot more then exploration.

so why exploration rewards on high sec so bad ? I mean I do mining get my plex and some goodies then do my exploration roaming just for the experience but rewards sucks.

Risk vs. reward.

Why are the [insert WoW starting area name] quest rewards so horrible?

A gurista scout outpost (ded 4, highsec), has the pithum c-type loot table, which is twice as valuable as the gurista military operations complex (ded 7, nullsec), which has the undesirable pith c-type loot table.

Not only that, you get 3 rolls at the faction loot table in both encounters, and the GSO can be cleared in 10 minutes, where as MOC takes more like an hour solo, and finding multiple GSOs in one session is easier too - so its easier to average out the "nothing dropped" runs.

ie the value of exploration is all about seeking the right thing, whatever sec you are in.

Frankly, high sec exploration rewards are too good, if anything.

High sec rewards, in general, are too good.

CCP doesn't actually give any such hint. The GSO is after accounting for time taken to find them, and time taken to complete them, one of the most lucrative solo farming strategies in the game.

ie the market determines whether or not the encounter is valuable.

and they gave us T3s, sisters ships, covops, and mobile depots to do it with.

i don think highsec exploration is meant to be high reward, i think its more of a place to learn how it works, get good then move to other riskier locations if exploring really takes your fancy

That said i got half a bil from a 4/10 in highsec once, luck of the draw i suppose

easy , its high sec. low en null gives better reward , you dint come up this yourself?

CCP also doesn't takes a hint that a majority of players eventually understand that they're being forced to play a certain way and thus they leave hisec through the unsub door.