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Rocket Hawk (Now with Video!) :-)
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Da'iel Zehn
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#21 - 2013-12-12 15:25:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Da'iel Zehn
Riot Girl wrote:
Try light missiles for PvE, they're faster than rockets.


Light missile launchers were the problem. I had to go to rockets to be able to use the ship's bonuses as much as possible due to the Hawk's low CPU tolerance.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#22 - 2013-12-12 15:28:43 UTC
Try using AB and switching the invuln for something more CPU friendly. Passive resistance amplifiers work quite well and help with cap too.

Oh god.
Da'iel Zehn
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#23 - 2013-12-12 15:36:26 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Try using AB and switching the invuln for something more CPU friendly. Passive resistance amplifiers work quite well and help with cap too.


I want to utilize the ship's bonuses as much as possible. So 7.5% shield boost and 50% reduction in MWD sig radius penalty.

I may try a passive NPC faction resistanc amp and see if I can get a shield boost amplifier on it. I think I'll try switching out the regular shield booster for an ASB too.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#24 - 2013-12-12 15:44:36 UTC
I wouldn't pay too much attention to the MWD bonus. If you're pulsing your MWD, you only benefit for that short duration anyway and you'll be tanking at normal speed the rest of the time. With a perma-running AB, you benefit from the speed at all times.

Oh god.
Da'iel Zehn
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#25 - 2013-12-12 16:03:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Da'iel Zehn
Riot Girl wrote:
I wouldn't pay too much attention to the MWD bonus. If you're pulsing your MWD, you only benefit for that short duration anyway and you'll be tanking at normal speed the rest of the time. With a perma-running AB, you benefit from the speed at all times.


Yea, I do pulse the MWD.

I try to work out good fits based on ship bonuses, but I think the Hawk doesn' t have enough CPU to do the job. It is inferior to other race assault frigates and needs to be reconfigured a little imo.

Using an AB only saves 10 CPU units., which still doesn't give much wiggle room. Though I think I will check an AB to see how it impacts tanking. Without the MWD that will lower sig radius to normal instead of 50% of penalty.

Thank you for the advice. Smile
Ginger Barbarella
#26 - 2013-12-12 16:22:03 UTC
Da'iel Zehn wrote:
I've decided after much tinkering that the Hawk is a rocket boat, plain and simple.


Was it the launcher hardpoints and virtually nothing CPU that helped you to that conclusion?

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Da'iel Zehn
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#27 - 2013-12-12 16:55:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Da'iel Zehn
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Was it the launcher hardpoints and virtually nothing CPU that helped you to that conclusion?


Basically I had fit Light Missile Launcher II x4. Then I tried to build an active tank based on the shield boosting bonus including the benefit from the MWD. I have all 5s in my support skills, and I could not get the fit to work because of the low CPU.

So I went to rocket launcher II x4 + an auto cannon (doesn't use cap). Now I can fit a descent bonus based fit. Though I'm going to drop the MWD for an AB II.

Fit #3

Rocket Launcher II x4
150mm Light Autocannon I (will be tech 2 when I get the skill up)

Small Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
1mn Afterburner II
Cap Charger (Meta 3 or 4)

Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Small Core Defense Field Extender I x2

CPU: 99.75%

Shield Resistances: EM 12.5 Therm 82.5 Kinetic 86.1 Explosive 56.2
Max Tank: 247 DPS (Guristas Kinetic/Thermal Dmg)
Effective HP: 13.66k
DPS: 140 (Scourge, Titanium Sabot)
Cap: 95% Stable (Shield Booster inactive)
Cap: Stable 34% (AB inactive)
Cap: 5m 8s (all modules active)
Speed: 844 m/s

Conclusion: This fit is even better that fit #2. Will be ideal for Kin/Therm NPCs.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#28 - 2013-12-12 19:11:24 UTC
If you have maxed support skills, you could try something like this.

[Hawk, LM Mission]
Ballistic Control System II
'Mendicant' Signal Booster I

1MN Afterburner II
Small Shield Booster II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Light Missile
[empty high slot]

Small Bay Loading Accelerator II
Small Core Defense Operational Solidifier I

It's really cheap and fits with a CA-1, CA-2 and EE-601. If you don't want to use implants, you can switch the low slot for a nano or something.

Oh god.
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#29 - 2013-12-12 19:33:16 UTC
Hawk with 2 med ASBs and rockets is a mean boat. Can hit out to 15km easy and tank like a boss
Da'iel Zehn
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#30 - 2013-12-12 19:35:24 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Hawk with 2 med ASBs and rockets is a mean boat. Can hit out to 15km easy and tank like a boss


I'm going to set that fit up for my PvP Rocket Hawk.
Skelee VI
Appetite 4 Destruction
#31 - 2013-12-12 21:21:05 UTC
I prefer rockets on hawk but the light missile version is good too.
Da'iel Zehn
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#32 - 2013-12-14 09:15:16 UTC
The Rocket Hawk in action. Video here.
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