Warfare & Tactics

hi
i know this game since a loong time ago. never had much time to play it until recently. i have joined fw as Minmatar TLF and had fun slugging it out with different people. with some i ended up discussing tactics. with some i didnt comunicate at all. today something interesting happened. i got shot by a TLF member as shown on his character sheet but he didnt have the purple icon/background in my overwiev. he targeted me and immediately i wrote to him in local making him aware that hes shooting a teammate. he destroyed my ship. no loss from my side. 3 milions fit rifter. what amazed me is that he he didnt get immediately expelled from TLF with a faction penalty automatically set to -10 as i would have expected it normaly, it still appears on his character sheet. nothing happened. no punishment. at this point i raised my eyebrows and asked myself what is the point of factional warfare if such things go unpunished? why didnt he appear as a corp mate in overwiev? is his TLF affiliation a fake in his character sheet? why is he able to fake it if thats the case? i checked it and its exactly the same as for other members of TLF. now i understand that there is a lot of cheating and exploiting in this game like i've never seen in my life, a testament to the community and how much respect they have for each other. but CCP permitted cheating? thats a bit too much for me. as a result i cancelled my subscription and unistalled since fw was the only thing i was looking for in this game. this is my feedback to factional warfare.
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You sir, are a ******. **** off back to Wow please.

Unfortunately, welcome to factional warfare. There are lots of awoxers, that use a few tricks to gank "friendlies".

When you shoot a fellow militia member, you take a personal faction standing hit. If you are in the NPC corp and your personal factional standings goes negative, that pilot will be expelled from militia. However, there are lots of ways around this:

-Shoot cross-militia allies since there is no faction standing hit, ie Gallente shoots Minmatar
-Place awoxer pilot in a PC corporation. When that happens, the player is not expelled based on personal standings, but the entire corporation is expelled based on average corp standings. A individual player's standings are only considered in the corp average after they are in corp for 7 days. This opens up two exploits (urr, I mean workarounds). First, bounce your character between PC corp every 6 days so your personal standing is never considered. You can awox like this forever. Second, have 2 +10 characters in corp to offset your -10 standings and you can awox forever.

As far as the overview goes, I would double check your overview settings. Additionally, if the pilot joins militia and you do not have a session change, your overview will not update until you go through a session change. In other words, you are sitting on an undock and see a neutral dock up. The neutral then joins FW and undocks. You will still see them as a neutral.

thank you for taking the time to explain this to me, unlike our civilized teenaged friend here who sent me directly to wow for mysterious reasons. maybe he is in the wrong thread, whatever, i thank him also for his attention. i had no idea that this game which is so many years old still has so many holes and allows for so much cheating. that be the case (or maybe it is intended to be so) i will not pay for a product that clearly needs a lot of work (still, after all these years) although i would gladly support the company by subscription because i like the idea of this game. but if it is demoted to stupid social experiments that need not be repeated 'cause history is full of them then i chose not to partake. how ironic, space-age setting in which animalic behaviour is condoned. well done CCP. truly sad. as for what our friend said earlier about going back to wow, i think its quite difficult go back to it since i have just decided to leave it. but im sure he will continue to enjoy it .

wow. this was one truly brilliant design choices for CCP. im speechless. so this is CCP announced and confirmed i get it. thats all i needed to hear. thank you for your time :)

You rage quit a game because of your inability to adapt to simple situations, hurl insults at mechanics you are ignorant about and you call me a teenager? There is no "cheating" in Eve, there is no structure, there is no noob friendly devices, there is only the sandbox

Seriously mate, you don't belong in Eve. Go find a game that caters to the stupid, lazy and uninspired.

im not enraged. im bitter sad. but nothing has to change because of that. really. im just stating my opinion for CCP since i paid for this product which proved to have serious flaws in my opinion and im pointing them out. i really have nothing to discuss with you. all i wanted to know if these flaws that i was pointing out area really flaws and if they are known to the developers. and i found out, thanx to the persons who answered me concerning my inquiries. this has absolutely nothing to do with you or with your insults that you have thrown at me without even understanding what the hell im talking about.

about belonging, well on that you are absolutely right. i dont belong in a game. this game, for me, is not a place to belong to. i dont have any problems to alleviate to need to belong to a game. i find that quite sad. for me its just a game. like ping-pong. maybe for you, this game means something else, who the hell knows whats in your head. and im not interested to find out. you act like i somehow treaspassed on your territory and pissed on your food and shat in your bed. you get me wrong. but anyway its pointless to try to communicate with people like you who clearly have serious problems. you act like i've personally attacked you. i kinda met this kind of behaviour before and i do as always in front of it. stepping back. do me a favour please. remain in this game and stay in it for the rest of your life. i surely do not want people with your kind of problems anywhere else. im happy for you to have found your place. now, me, the inadaptable, lazy, stupid and uninspired who hurled insults at mechanics i am ignorant about will leave you alone in your sandbox where you belong. stay there.

hi :)

if i may, i would like to point out that i never complained that i have trouble surviving in this game. and this in not a frustrated cry for help. i have posted here my feedback on a game which i paid for and expected to be more attentively designed as not to permit this kind of exploits. because immature people take advantage of them. in my humble opinion, a cheater is someone who by the act of cheating implicitly acknowledges his inability to compete and he knows it. so i have no problem with that. why they are permitted to do so by design flaws, bothers me. and that was all about it
i surely hope i made myself clear in the end. really. my intention is not to hurt anybody. im just disappointed by this product out of which, because of its age, i expected better.
my presumption, my mistake.

It's not an exploit but it's pants on head ******** to join militia only to get awox'd. What's the point of it then? Or is that why the Gallente lost just about all of its space?

It's funny, the people I see saying HTFU the most, or trying to act super edgy, usually suck the most.

ive never heard such a potty mouth on the forums. you really are a teen.