Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This. Just remember for every 100 social justice warriors there are thousands of people who literally don't give a **** or explicitly disagree with the entire concept.

Wait, how is sex not binary. I mean, sure you can do whatever you want with your sexuality. Nonetheless I'm not aware about this third human genotype. Unless you're saying the difference between a man body from a woman's body is merely a difference of degree in organs development. That is a biology subject I am sure everyone can be more educated about. Please explain.

EDIT: Please don't link anything, just give a small brief from your own pov. I'm not that interested. It's just that you can't simply throw a concept like that in a game forum and expect people to dig through it.

it wouldnt be hard. just have a different clone probably not even your own body, just has to be a "fresh" clone set to receive your own neurological data. no dna tampering at all.

All well and good, but the Amarr would certainly have an issue with this given their history of social repression and most likely this would not be a popular option in the Minmatar regions due to the cross cultural contamination of their former Amarr masters.

Personally I think that whilst some people would love to change genders (if only for a day) if the technology were available as human beings we have an inbuilt desire to see the male or female form as attractive or unattractive as per our sexuality, hence most men would like to date women and most women would like to date men. Gay men want to date other gay men and gay women want to date other gay women. The central focus of this is that we're all attracted to a gender. It's for this reason of sexual competitiveness that I doubt that in the future there will ever be a time when male/female bodies are not the norm and whilst some people may choose to be somewhere in between male or female this would be a sociological niche and not the norm as it's a rare person who is attracted to people between genders.

It's like asking a gay man to be attracted to a male transvestite who is so convincingly a woman to the outside world that no one can tell the difference, it just wouldn't be attractive to him as he would of course like men that demonstrate they are masculine. Likewise most straight man probably wouldn't want to date a woman that has chosen to grow a penis. Again some men might be happy with it, but it probably wouldn't be mainstream.

If the technology became available I would expect the transgenderish people to simply swap bodies for a while and go a couple of weeks or days as a woman or man before swapping back again or simply wear different bodies for different occasions.

I have to agree.
I have no problem with gender sliders in games (Dark Souls, Saints Row, etc); it's nothing new.
But I don't see a reason to waste development time on it if it's not already in the game. It's very much "and the kitchen sink of political correctness" which we don't need.

Besides, maybe genolution is just bigoted and only provides male and female clone technology in order to homogenize the universe. History has seen stranger things.

Team avatar was assembled specifically to work on gameplay related to avatars, not necessarily for vanity/character design features. Which, if you followed the thread in GD, was pushed back for at least a few years.

As I understand it, the big difficulty presented here is the same reason we don't have cross-dressing; the clothing was never designed for it in the first places. The meshes don't mesh together correctly, and fixing it could be quite a challenge. It may seems as simple as "combining male and female attributes and clothing", but the character engine just wasn't designed with that in mind.

Personally, I want to see more of anything Incarna related, but I think it's a bit pointless to work on more customizable avatars until we can actually do something with them. I'd like to see them at least go back and finish establishments first.

I'm not against this idea. I just feel it should be fairly low-priority. (Then again, CCP has shown their ability to work on "impossible, low priority" projects, when they released missile launcher models on quite a few ships that didn't even have graphical hardpoints at the time.

Ok are you asking for a YY model?
Because that's going to give you a pile of goop as you lack the proper DNA to generate well anything at that point that can be considered alive much less human.
Seriously genetics does not work that way.
You are going to be making a computer program with all 1s.
Youll get something but it isnt good.

Now do you mean trans?
Because if so then one the person is probably going to make their body correct on the first time
and 2 trans has a heavy causation in the amylgalda.
Meaning if you shove a male brain scan into a female clone, you are going to get a nutcase as everything is wrong.
A trans has a wrong body in relationship to their brain structures (subject to change when science lets us tweak those brain structures to match genetic code)
Heck Iran recognizes this and pays on the government dime for sex correction therapy.

No do you mean a nonbinary bit?
Because that is really stupid and no cases have been found in history.
You have intersex yes (which based on horrible fan things the Matar have a number of apparently)
But you do some digging on them and they will choose one set of genitals as correct.

You can try androgynous or bishies, but again they identify as one of the 2.
Heck even if you tweaked the brain chemistry to be right on the line of male and female it will be lost the first time they take a drink of water and have some salt (which is needed to live!!!!)

Now you could argue that you have actually created a new race through all this, but due to the genes and neurochemistry being so far beyond human norms as to be its own phylum really, they wouldnt be able to interface with a pod.
And thus you couldnt use them in EVE.
And we have enough half things in the game to not need an unplayable option that cant even start the game.

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Genders are a waste of time when you reproduce through cloning and get your thrills (instead of from sex) from illegal drugs while swimming in pod fluid. So what the hell. No gender, change gender, both genders, new genders, go crazy. But consider this the bottom of the walking in station features to be implemented. First we need some actual good features for walking in station (just walking around is no use unless there is a good reason to walk around. Like some new epic administration system that allows you to walk through a 3D representation of your empire in a sort of hologram room, and refit the ship by standing next to a holographic representation of your ship that more easily portrays more information and allows for more automation and less hassle).



An Abaddon can fit shield extenders, cross-dressing is already in the game.

I believe that wearing a miniskirt in a December blizzard is pretty dumb, but i defend their right to do so.

It was not Ronny who added that judgement on shield tanking abbadons he merely stated it could be done. the judgement was all from you Electrique