Player Features and Ideas Discussion

How does one safely get to deep space to explore, without a cloak?

So you're looking at you exploration ship thinking "which ship should i take to null/low sec to run those juicy exploration sites? ... I know, the big slow one that has zero chance of getting past a gate camp."

You guys are talking rubbish. The Nestor need some type of navigational bonus for it to do its job.

this seem to be made specially for certain worm hole people, how much they paid for this desing?

So your friend is in a Stratios and says: "i'm going to go exploring in null. What to come?"

You: "sure, should i bring a cloaky ship, more that capable of doing the job or do you want to scout my new 2 billion isk ship 30 jumps through null?

I said I would like to see a range bonus instead of an amount bonus in my very first post. Comparing that with other ships changed my opinion though. Exactly because it is too similar to other ships which each fill their own role much better than the strange chimera Rise proposed.
Also I don't want to see yet another ship that has a dronebay full of replacable weapons being imune to ewar.

I don't live in a WH anymore, but I think long enough to know that an rr BS (with drone damage no less) is just silly. Adding to the fact that a Strateos already has more than enough tank to easily survive sleepers while hacking and that nobody in their right mind would use a bs - especially uncloaked, but not saying Nestor should get a bonus to cloaking - for any other scanning tasks than being stranded outside one's homesystem, I can't bring myself to think this thing is not completely useless for exploration. The point that it's uselss for exploration outside of WHs was already made earlier by myself and others.
WH peeps love to fly expensive ships, but even more to make money fast (to have more time shoot each other in cloaky T3 ships). And that Nestor is nowhere near the way to do it. Hell, even the mass is a joke, when I can just jump a carrier through and bring 10 T3 with it.
For me this is just another version of the Dominix with bad damage application, but slightly better RR capabilities, which only can be combined with itself if you want to make use of the rangebonus for the reppers.

Most WH people consider this ship as giant shiny pinata. In it's current state it's nothing usefull for WH... (armageddon, bhaalgorn, typhoon, scorpion are much more usefull and much cheaper than this ship).

*With apologies for the thread started and double post of this to the right place*

SOE dedicates itself to the rescue and treatment of the injured, but the player ships don't really reflect this part of the lore. Further to this the high cost of this ship will be hard to justify against the low mass for an rr bs in wh space so it does lack a specific role.

Two things come to mind to remedy the cost vs reward for using this ship in hostile space :

Actual medical bay : like titans and rorquals can use for portable cloning.

Jump portals : same range and fuel bay as black ops but cannot use covert portals/cynos.

One or both of these functions would elevate the risk/reward factor of using an expensive ship like this will be so hopefully they'll be seen in all parts of space and explode amusingly.

CCP's vision of what ships are "about" and things those ships happen to be good at as a result are not necessarily the same thing.

Quite often, in fact.

Though a wormhole, same as a huge pile of other ships.



Not quite what I ment. Every pirate ship line has a certain theme to it. Serpentis ships are the absolute ultimate in brawling technology, Blood Raider ships are the masters of cap warfare, Angels bring incredibly fast ships. This all goes with the general theme of their faction. Sisters are primarily a charity and exploration faction, therefore their theme lines up with that. Drones and lasers are chosen specifically to make them independant from ammo resupplies, whereas the virus and scan bonuses play on the exploration part. Cloak plays a secondary role in this - Astero and Stratios have it because they need it, Nestor does not.



It's not the first 2 billion isk ship I'd be running around with :p

Well, that depends on what else happens to the Nestor. If it stays like it is and gets a jumpdrive it sure is quite overpowered.
Considering my own proposal, i do not think so.