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[Rubicon 1.1] Sisters of EVE Battleship

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Michael Harari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#921 - 2013-12-05 20:18:16 UTC
x-7O isnt in deep nullsec, its a handful of jumps from the lowsec entry to pureblind
Emma Yobibit
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#922 - 2013-12-05 20:25:44 UTC
I want a big spiny bit. Like the Cruiser design.
Lijhal
Innoruuks Wrath
#923 - 2013-12-05 20:30:26 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:


NESTOR

Amarr Battleship Bonuses:
4% Armor resistances per level

Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
10% drone damage and hitpoints per level


looks fine


CCP Rise wrote:

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to remote armor repairer amount
100% bonus to remote armor repairer range
50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
50% increased strength for scan probes
+10 virus strength for relic and data analyzers


its ok, nothing reallllly special but see below!


CCP Rise wrote:

Slot layout: 7H, 6M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 11250 PWG, 680 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 8900 / 9950 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 6200 / 1044 / 5.9
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 92 / .18 / 56000000 / 13.97
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 85 / 7
Sensor strength: 24 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 465
Cargo Capacity: 700


this ship needs a TON more of cap and a better recharge time
with large energy turrets, remote armor repairer AND local armor repairer this thing will dry out in notime, even with cap boosters and recharger

also (i think) it needs max locked targets up to 10

iam also curious about the low mass (which is quite nice) but also makes you a bump target for all cruiser sized ships
also the base max speed needs to be much higher please ....
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#924 - 2013-12-05 20:31:59 UTC
mynnna wrote:

Excuse me, but I said that if as many players continue to farm the agents as had been pre-patch that that LP might become devalued. When citing my economic genius, please sure to cite correctly, thank you.

You can throw in as many caveats as you want, but the meat of your prediction was that they would lower in price to around where a Cynabal is, and you based this assumption on the price of navy BPCs. Those BPC's are MASSIVELY undercut by faction warfare LP store prices to the point where the regular Sisters bpc's look like a good deal compared to the sanctuary option. You were grossly mistaken.
Karash Amerius
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#925 - 2013-12-05 20:42:01 UTC
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Karash Amerius wrote:
Why not give it bonuses to BOTH armor and shield remote reps? Seriously. Would not be overpowered due to fits being one or the other, and gives some flexibility in one package.

Just 'whiteboarding' here.


No, this inst a jovian craft.


Oh we are going to get all RP-ish over a balancing thread are we?

Karash Amerius Operative, Sutoka

Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#926 - 2013-12-05 20:45:07 UTC
So when is this thing gonna be on test server?
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#927 - 2013-12-05 20:51:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Nestor

Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus:
4% bonus to armor resists per level

Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus:
10% bonus to drone damage and hitpoints per level

Role Bonuses:
50% bonus to Large Energy Turret optimal range
50% bonus to remote armor repairer amount
100% bonus to remote armor repairer range
50% bonus to scan strength of probes
+15 to virus strength of analyzers

Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Devices

Drones under the control of this ship will not be targeted by Sleeper Drones

The Nestor is incapable of fitting Cynosural Field Generators

Slot Layout: 6H, 6M, 7L; 4 Turrets, 0 Launchers
Drones (bandwidth/bay): 125/500
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 90km / 95 / 7
Cargo Capacity: 700
Brib Vogt
Doomheim
#928 - 2013-12-05 21:06:49 UTC
I haven't read so much crap in a long while. Demanding changes for crappy bonuses is so crazy.

I hope it will not have any covert ability, because its a battleship. No other battleship has it and the first ship, which should allow covert ops should be a T2 BS with huge skill requirement.

I hope it can't jump on its own account, but when it does it has to be on T2 level. 2 Jumbridge skills and both BS on 5.

Hacking Bonus? Serious? Cut them out and exchange them for... for..., NOTHING. Its just crazy and this ship has enough bonuses.


I really don't know what to use this ship for right now, but i will buy one anyway. Even if it stay docked forever. I for myself can fly carrier, dreads and blackops and i see a pirate low skill ship with similar properties as an insult.

RISE, Focus on something important. Something which stands for SoE and follow that line, but be consequent. If High End Systems can be used with this ship make high end skills necessary.
GeeShizzle MacCloud
#929 - 2013-12-05 21:07:40 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Nestor

...blah blah blah...

Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Devices

...blah blah blah...



for the final f**king time Uriel it wont get a cov ops cloak so stop the ******** posting.
BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#930 - 2013-12-05 21:21:06 UTC
GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Nestor

...blah blah blah...

Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Devices

...blah blah blah...



for the final f**king time Uriel it wont get a cov ops cloak so stop the ******** posting.


http://i.imgur.com/B64v89b.gif Bear
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#931 - 2013-12-05 21:32:58 UTC
GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Nestor

...blah blah blah...

Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Devices

...blah blah blah...



for the final f**king time Uriel it wont get a cov ops cloak so stop the ******** posting.

Well if it's so upsetting, then just take that design without it then Big smile

But seriously, if it doesn't have that, it could do with some other unique attribute, maybe a +2 warp core strength bonus.
Harrigan VonStudly
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#932 - 2013-12-05 21:47:06 UTC
Unless I missed something the SOE ships were released with Rubicon along with Ghost sites. I read some bit of news somewhere that Ghost sites were ripping the hell out of those attempting them. Now comes a long overdue range bonused RRBS. This ship may have uses most of ya'll aren't realizing.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#933 - 2013-12-05 21:50:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
The range bonus will be invaluable to lasers on the ship. Firstly, a pulse laser with multifrequency will have the same range as an unbonused one using standard- and with beam lasers, this will be an amazing feature. It'll allow the guns to hit targets much farther out.

I like this Big smile
Karash Amerius
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#934 - 2013-12-05 22:02:06 UTC
How about +15 virus strength in ghost sites only?

Karash Amerius Operative, Sutoka

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#935 - 2013-12-05 22:06:01 UTC
Karash Amerius wrote:
How about +15 virus strength in ghost sites only?

Why, though? It'll be an exploration battleship- it'd make sense for it to be better than frigates or the stratios, or t3s at exploration- it'd be a nice payof for using a 2 billion ISK Battleship for it.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#936 - 2013-12-05 22:06:39 UTC
Karash Amerius wrote:
Oh we are going to get all RP-ish over a balancing thread are we?

I think it's not entirely RP-ish thing if we remember that jovian vessels are basically dev ships. A hint to what kind of ships can have all the bonuses you want, like armor and shield.

GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:
for the final f**king time Uriel it wont get a cov ops cloak so stop the ******** posting.

What if people are willing to fight for their dream to the last? Big smile
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#937 - 2013-12-05 22:12:09 UTC
Do you all not understand? We need more, More, MORE! It needs a covert cloak, 15+ to exploring bonus, bonus to shield repair, and I think breasts.

People you are all nuts, but don't worry so am I. I'll still reading and commenting on this post aren't I? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
uyguhb
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#938 - 2013-12-05 22:28:56 UTC
This ship needs a jumpdrive or all you have created is the most expensive complex running ship in the game.

I want to fight and die in pvp with these! not shoot little red crosses till my eyes bleed and i dont play eve for 2 weeks.
Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers
#939 - 2013-12-05 22:32:32 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:
Hi

I am very relieved to finally show you the Sisters of EVE Battleship, the Nestor. We weren't able to get it finalized before Rubicon went out, but that's alright because now it makes a nice Christmas present (just kidding it's not until (late)January).

We all agreed that keeping the covert cloak theme was not going to work for the battleship. Instead, we've kept the rest of the exploration feel from the Stratios and Astero by giving the Nestor hacking and probing bonuses, but instead of cloaking it will receive a bonus to remote armor repair amount, drawing on the Sisters of EVE themes of aid and relief. On top of that, the Nestor (as designed currently) has incredibly low mass - around half the mass of a normal Battleship. This should make it very popular in wormholes. The rest of the attribute layout follows the principles from the other Sisters of EVE ships pretty closely, as do the bonuses.

Here's the details:

NESTOR

Amarr Battleship Bonuses:
4% Armor resistances per level

Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
10% drone damage and hitpoints per level

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to remote armor repairer amount
100% bonus to remote armor repairer range
50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
50% increased strength for scan probes
+10 virus strength for relic and data analyzers

Slot layout: 7H, 6M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 11250 PWG, 680 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 8900 / 9950 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 6200 / 1044 / 5.9
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 92 / .18 / 56000000 / 13.97
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 85 / 7
Sensor strength: 24 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 465
Cargo Capacity: 700

It will be acquired in the same way that the Stratios and Astero are, via Sisters of EVE LP stores. Here are the LP offer specifics:

Nestor
1,000,000 LP
100,000,000 ISK

Discount Nestor (From the Sanctuary)
800,000 LP
80,000,000 ISK

Nestor Blueprint
600,000 LP
150,000,000 ISK

Discount Nestor Blueprint (From the Sanctuary)
400,000 LP
100,000,000 ISK

I wanted to show you guys some art, but wasn't able to get ahold of the newest version today so I'll edit later with it.

Hope this is exciting! Let me know
o/

STEALTH EDIT by Manifest brings high res concept art: http://bit.ly/1izOFm4


With the bonus to RR range.. It's looking like more I would fly it... If only that damn ring was moved to the Center or more to the Rear... a player on here had a real good concept drawing for it.. would LOVE to buy that model
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#940 - 2013-12-05 22:38:58 UTC
Keep the ship's physical design exactly as it is- I realize that there are other ideas floating around, but, for the most part, they make the ship look like an oversized Stratios. The ship is much larger and much more unique and imposing with its current design.

Good job, CCP and Asgeir! Big smile