Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Absolutely. There isn't anything about it that makes me think I want to fly it.

PvE Tank and gank? Not in armor, not enough lows, so you are stuck at around 660 drone DPS with two DDAs and a four slot tank, workable for level 4s maybe....this thing has a smaller cap base than a Vindi and lasers, so cap is going to be a constant issue, However, with 6 mids it has the capability to do goofy stuff like run dual TC triple Omni plus prop/MJD.....dual augmenters and beams......could be workable. It SHOULD apply damage very well over a decent range

....IF there is enough CPU (which would amaze me) and IF it has the cap base to run all of that for a tolerable amount of time with either semi's or CCCs......which I also doubt....and if there is enough grid to support all of that without fitting mods, because you aren't going to have a low or rig slot to spare, and as it is you can't fit full T2 rigs because ~pirate calibration~

For PvP, what are you going to do with? Hospital Domi on steroids? you are going to need a few of them, 4/5 slot buffer suitcase and a rack of SeBos so you can actually shift targets, 4 Large reppers and a couple cap transfers and an Omni? Could be interesting, but you have also now brought the DPS down below 500, and it won't outrun a snail, so if you go in with them you are going balls deep, or not at all.

.....and FFS toss that scanning bonus, its a horrible idea on a battleship, totally, and utterly useless.

Why not introduce a bonus based on some of the new shinies?

Hull bonus:
-75% bonus to anchoring time of Mobile Depots

The ship can now refit for its various roles relatively quickly, without its being a "pocket carrier."

Add rep amount of logistics drones to the Gallente Battleship hull bonus, then introduce logistics sentry drones, so that the Nestor has a choice between powerful, short-range high-slot reps plus drone DPS, or less powerful but medium-range reps at the expense of drone DPS.

For exploration... that's a bit tricky. Instead of the Cov Ops cloak, maybe a +1 to warp core strength and, for something truly novel, a variation on the MJD, available from the SoE loyalty store and fittable only to the Nestor, which has the same spool-up and cooldown as a vanilla MJD, but instead of jumping 100km ahead of where you're currently going, you can Jump To any visible object within 50km. That would sort out the problem of slow-boating around exploration sites, but it might be way OP. I'm just spitballing.

All I know is that: I Am Not Flying this thing without a Covert Cloak!

And I bet 100 million isk that over 50% of the Eve population thinks the same!

This Ship will be a Hi Sec suvenir

The current base for Remote Reps are 8,400 meters which only works for small scale PvP and PvE. I would recommend 300% bonus to range (25,200 meters) and keep some form of repair bonus (I suggest between 25%-50%).

The ships are going to be expensive and therefore rather rare. Regardless of that, if you have a logi Battleship it needs something to make it stand out (other than just being a BS), especially with the price tag associated with that thing.

My 0.02 isks worth.

PS To those saying get rid of the Remote Reps... It's called a Dominix, it was introduced to the game in 2003

The only good to come out of this ship is the cool design.

1. RR w/o range?
2. Most people use alts for not just scanning/analyzing, but scouting, making this ship's scanning bonuses a bit impractical in dangerous parts of space.
3. The desired role of this ship will never compete with what T3's already do more efficiently for less ISK.

And finally,
No practicality as a PvP ship whatsoever. Inb4 'IT WASN'T MEANT TO BE" but my point is:

EVE has more than enough PvE ships, and this isn't even a good PvE ship to say the least.


Might as well add a salvaging bonus.


My suggestion is to drop the exploration bonuses and replace them with logi or damage bonuses. Why would anyone want to scan in a ship that's probably going to cost around a billion ISK? Then, decided whether it's a drone or laser boat. Hybrid dps roles don't work as well. (IE Old Typhoon, Naglfar). Awaiting tears.

Why the round shape? it has nothing special..... at all

I love the look of the ship, but it does need stats to change.

I've said something along these lines previously, but it is a vary mixed-up ship with a wide variety of bonuses.

But I've seen a suggestion I like, so I made up something:

Nestor

Amarr Battleship Bonus:
4% bonus to armor resists per level

Gallente Battleship Bonus:
+1 active drone per level

Role Bonuses:
50% bonus to drone optimal range, tracking and velocity
50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
50% bonus to scan strength of probes
+15 virus strength to data and relic analyzers

Slot Layout: 6H, 6M, 7L; 4 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 11250 PWG, 680 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 8900 / 9950 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 6200 / 1044 / 5.9
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 92 / .18 / 56000000 / 13.97
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 200 / 500
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 95 / 7
Sensor strength: 24 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 465
Cargo Capacity: 700

And I absolutely love the design- https://www.dropbox.com/s/wza1xux7ql2m3jp/SOE_Nestor_Battleship_FinalConcept_lrg.png

I don't want them to change it at all, no matter what. Change the stats all you'd like, but use this design.

> Remove the virus/scan strength bonus. Anyone who uses these for exploration is an idiot.
> Replace with 200% range bonus on reps.

Then we can party!

Until then, this ship is a joke.

Also, on design - props to the artists, it looks like it was really difficult to create and took a lot of effort. I'm not exactly fond of the design (random fins in back should be shorter, wider, and horizontal; oval instead of circle in front), but I appreciate the effort put into it.

Let me try putting this another way...



These are averages of a couple ship classes. The number on the far right is the guesstimated cost of the SoE battleship divided by the average cost of that hull class. So a ratio of 3 would mean that the SOE was 3 times as expensive as that ship class. So we can see a few things here.

Edit: I'll also point out it would be more expensive than everything except titans, super carriers, and jump freighters.

We have a new Pirate BS that costs..
- Nearly as much as a dread
- Almost twice as expensive as a carrier
- 3 times as expensive as the rest of the pirate battleships
- Twice as expensive as the most expensive T2 BS hull (Marauder)
- 3 times as expensive as Black Ops ships

I'm hoping this illustrates why the players are complaining about the bonuses and noting the disconnect between price and performance. I don't think anyone expects this to be twice as good as a carrier, or three times as good as the other faction BS's. I can't help but feel there's a discrepancy here though.