Player Features and Ideas Discussion

SoE are bad pirates.

It's a sisters ship.... no. It probably is meant to be a ghost site runner. At any rate the scanning is a must on a SOE ship.

A legitimate question really. It's painfully obvious that CCP shows little to no respect towards their customers nowadays. I've seen a lot of good topic related ideas here, posted by people who show more passion and knowledge of EvE than certain CCP developers themselfes. 99% of those have been ignored. So pls feel free to imagine my dirty middle finger pointed in your direction CCP. You f...ing deserve the shitstorm coming towards you.

Oh man… Isn't that the truth.

When none of the changes proposed are really necessary, or where necessary are ill-conceived, that really doesn't count.

I'm posting to say I'm not going to bother running missions to get this ship. I'd already saved up a bit, but I'll stop now as it is clearly not worth the investment of time. In short: The design as it stands is not fit for solo exploration and if you're exploring with a team then there are more effective and cheaper options. The sad part is that it almost looks like it could work.

* The low mass, large cargo bay, large drone bay, armour resists are good.
* The damage application, remote rep and the mixed bag of exploration bonuses are not so good.

Clearly CCP don't want to mess around with the balance of PvP by creating a monster, but to meet their objective of creating an exploration-focused battleship we need something flexible and solid, especially considering the price. I don't think the answer is to give it hundreds of "role" or "special ability" bonuses, but it does need to have slot space and fitting capacity to carry out the mixed set of functions that are intended. As a solo explorer I would like to see:

* Keep: Amarr Battleship Bonuses: 4% Armor resistances per level;
* Keep: Gallente Battleship Bonuses: 10% drone damage and hitpoints per level;
* Add: Special Ability: 100% bonus to Large Energy Turret damage (reduce to 3 turret slots so it can fit utility mods);
* Add: 1 low slot so it can fit drone/laser damage mods and a tank that can stand up to Sleepers etc;
* Add CPU and tweak some of the other base stats (e.g. + cap recharge, - sig radius);
* Remove all the other miscellaneous bonuses and...
* Add a set of Sisters Faction LP modules that only the Nestor (or SoE ships) can fit, like the Echelon's data analyser, ensuring that they incorporate some juicy stats and say it has something to do with the hull design like the Astero/Stratios.

Sisters Remote Armor Repairer (logistics stats but limit to 24km range?)
Sisters Armor Repairer (deadspace stats - alternative to remote rep for solo explorers)
Sisters Salvager (0.5 x cycle time)
Sisters Tractor beam (range bonus)
Sisters Data/Relic analysers (with inbuilt virus strength bonuses)
Sisters Cloak (no cloaky warp but no speed/sensor penalties)

* Maybe nerf sensor strength (since I've proposed some Marauder-style bonuses) so it has an obvious PvP weakness.
* Maybe reduce the price of the ship since some of the functions are moved to new modules in the faction store.

It would be solid enough, but would give players the flexibility to fit whichever modules they need for exploration.

As a character created to make use of the Asteros and Stratios, I was most anxious to see what the SoE battleship involved. Now that we know, I have mixed feelings.

As a roleplayer, I appreciate what is being attempted with the Nestor. The rep bonuses and drone capabilities all conceptually fit the idea of a deep space search and rescue vessel. Should a new search and rescue mission type be introduced later (a combination of exploration, logistics and combat), this ship would excel at it. However, after several years of playing other characters, I recognize that roleplaying is but a small niche in New Eden, and something best left to character bios and chats instead of starship design. The high LP cost of this ship means it will always have a target on it, even in high sec space (like the Stratios after its introduction, but more so), meaning those few with the LP or ISK to spend may own a Nestor, but will never fly it.

The Nestor should keep the exploration bonuses, as that is the unifying characteristic of the SoE vessels. The Stratios and Asteros both had the mix of energy weapons and drones in order to be most self-sufficient during solo exploration. If the idea is for the Nestor to be able to tackle the ghost sites and null sec exploration sites that the Stratios cannot, than purify the design to that end. Remove the rep bonuses and improve its agility or durability (if needed...I can't say if it is), and add an additional bonus for the drones. Perhaps add specialized drone bandwidth that allows the launching of five (or one per level of Gallante battleship) EWAR or logistic drones in addition to the wing of combat drones or sentries to make the Nestor more like the Guardian or a carrier. I also liked the idea of the Nestor having a small craft bay for shuttles or frigates (from the concept art) and someone mentioned a medical bay/clone vat, which would also be in keeping with the SoE concept but also be more practical for deep space exploration.

Yes, all this would require a significant rework. I understand the developers wanting to get the Nestor off Sisi and out to where players can use it and actual feedback can be collected. My fear is with the Nestor's excessive price tag, all that feedback will be in the form of kill-mails (which may actually be to the benefit of all of us looking for a rework).

For the record, I want to fly this ship, and want it to be worth the risk to do so. In its current form, it isn't.

Just my $0.02...

CCp does nto want to risk even more firepower able to jump trough a covert cyno using a back ops bridge.

That might indicate that they intend to buff black ops themselves.

I just realized how similar my idea is to this one.. I haven't looked at it in months

SoE - bad habits abound.


So, is this ship going to get anything special to justify the price or is this going to be a big fat blingy gank magnet?