Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I think the Dominix holds that record currently after it was realised how insane it was. And oh so many people thought the Armageddon would out shine it. How silly we were.

I too join the gang of "disappointed with the design". I hope to kill anyone I find flying one with a gang of 15 destroyers.

Alright, but just remember when you see the utilization statistics for the nestor (after the 'new shiny' factor wears off), we told you exactly what would happen and why.

looking at the damage output i think i would rather use a dominix with lasers then a nestor.

I like this idea from a while back... maybe they could look into doing this, seeing as it'll be a kind of problematic ship

For the price of a rattler hull, I would consider it. Could be a nice Sentry Boat. Oh wait ..

never mind

See you in 6 months when they release the "minor" adjustment...

The scanning/hacking bonuses as well as the laser bonuses should be axed. I don't know what they should be replaced with if anything but I personally want it gone. I understand the design philosophy: make the ultimate wormhole battleship. Low mass, great spider tanking abilities, drone bonuses, scan and hacking bonuses... but while the first three are great I can promise that no reasonably intelligent wormhole dweller will fit this thing for hacking or scanning. I have spent my last few months of Eve in a wormhole and when I heard the initial concept I was interested. Now though.... meh. I would rather just stick to Dominix spider tanks or if I feel a need for something shiny and Rattlesnake or Dominix Navy Issue. Like the smaller SOE ships it's one ship trying to do way too much except the problems are further highlighted by being a battleship.

I kind of ranted so tl;dr:

Drop the all purpose wormhole battleship bs and refine it into a proper wormhole RR and drone boat that will see real use.

Called it.

Also, I now feel much better for not trying to collect 600k SOE LP, as you are just about to screw that effort over to push out your ship. Thinking about it, if the cost of 600k LP is going to to make the market cost of the Nestor too high, then why is it priced at 600k LP?

If you introduce alternative ways of obtaining the BPC it is very likely, that the frequency of BPC drops through these ways, will be the primary, if not sole, determinant on the price of the Nestor and only fools with no math skills will use the SOE Store.

Again, why have you stubbornly insisted that the Nestor should cost 600.000 SOE LP, when you already know, that the Nestor is not worth 600.000 SOE LP?

Have been playing around with one of those on the testserver. Have to say they are quite a nightmare to fit. Even with my pretty high skills in the overall ship fitting, i was barely able to squeeze a working PvE-Fit onto it. Once i managed that, i was quite underwhelmed. I see no reason chosing this ship over any of the other others out there, actually in most PvEing cases, pretty much all other ships are a better choice.

Comparing it with my favourite PvE-Drone boat i currently use, the Rattlesnake, there is no reason to even consider the Nestor - and that with me flying in sansha space, where lasers would rock. But fitting this ship sucks so much, that my Rattlesnake still easily outdamages it, and on top of it tanks 2-3 times as well, and has 4-5 times longer cap. So the Nestor loses in every aspect.

I feel it should get at least more powergrid, so you can squeeze in the middle sized large beam lasers, as right now, you can only fit the smallest ones. Even better would be tachyons, then it may be able to compare with the rattlesnake dmg wise.


Right now, the nestor may only have a niche use, for very specialized or rare cases, or maybe PvP - as it may be possible to build up an very amazing spider tank with a fleet of those. Yet their cost may even negate this sort of use.


You wanted an all around ship for many uses and cases, that can be used in most of them, without outshining anything. Thats a valid point, yet this iteration is so underwhelming, that it has no place in my personal plans anymore after flying and trying it. The "without outshining anything" part was kept in mind when building it so much, that is is now so underwhelming in 95% of all cases, that there is no reason to ever fly it.


Guess it is time to buy some more shinies for my Rattlesnake, as i feel this ship will be my favourite choice for a long time to come.....

The problem I see with this is that it cuts across the SoE and ghost site narrative, unless the SoE are planting their own relics for their recruits to find as a training exercise...

Since there are no anti-SoE plexes the only logical place to get this ship is in the SoE LP store, it's just that the abilities do not justify the LP cost.

Perhaps Rise could bring himself to compromise by offering a Nestor BPC for 300k LP as well as a complete Nestor for 600k LP.

Then at least they'd be available for ~1.2Bn ISK, which is at least low enough to try one out.