These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE New Citizens Q&A

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Mobile Tractor Unit Rules?
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Joy-Tear Starseeker
Unity Ventures
#1 - 2013-12-03 12:55:32 UTC
Hi guys,

I had a look in the forums, but couldn't find the answers to the following questions about Mobile Tractor Units.


1. If I deploy a MTU for myself, am I the only one who is able to open it and take the cargo? (ie no ninja looting)
2. If someone warps in whilst I'm doing my mission, and they start shooting my MTU, can I still interact with it?
a) Can I still loot from it?
b)Can I still pack it into my hold?
c) If I can NOT pack it into my hold, can I use a remote armour repairer on it?
d) If I do use an armour/shield repairer on the MTU whilst it is being attacked does that become a hostile act towards the attacker?

I am running mission in High Sec, and after a bad experience wanted to confirm the rules and how this works.

Apologies if this has already been asked. Thanks all for your time :)


Joy
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-12-03 13:07:01 UTC
1) Yes
2a) Yes
2b) Yes
2c) Yes
2d) I assume no, but I haven't tested it. (Could be some limited engagement nonsense, depending on whether the MTU is counted as a part of "yourself" or as a friendly ship.)
Lilliana Stelles
#3 - 2013-12-03 13:11:39 UTC
Quote:
1. If I deploy a MTU for myself, am I the only one who is able to open it and take the cargo? (ie no ninja looting)

No. It works like a jetcan. Anyone can take from it.

Quote:
2. If someone warps in whilst I'm doing my mission, and they start shooting my MTU, can I still interact with it?

Yes.

Quote:
a) Can I still loot from it?

Yes.

Quote:
b)Can I still pack it into my hold?

I've heard mixed results on this, but I believe you can.

Quote:
c) If I can NOT pack it into my hold, can I use a remote armour repairer on it?


d) If I do use an armour/shield repairer on the MTU whilst it is being attacked does that become a hostile act towards the attacker?


You can definitely repair it.
I don't think you'll get a limited engagement. As far as I know the object itself doesn't have a limited engagement... it's just an object and hasn't aggressed, though I could be wrong about that.

Not a forum alt. 
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-12-03 14:11:43 UTC
It seems we have a disagreement on whether an MTU can be ninja-looted?
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-12-03 14:14:35 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Quote:
1. If I deploy a MTU for myself, am I the only one who is able to open it and take the cargo? (ie no ninja looting)

No. It works like a jetcan. Anyone can take from it.

Did that get changed since release?

CCP Lebowski wrote:
Fire'Marshal Bill wrote:
The tractor Beam unit, can it be opened by anyone? Pilot only? Corp? Fleet? Shooting grants suspect as mentioned, but is it steal-capable?

The Mobile Tractor Unit can only be opened by the owner, but can be killed by anyone. When killed it will drop a proportion of its loot.

Source
Lilliana Stelles
#6 - 2013-12-03 14:43:03 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Quote:
1. If I deploy a MTU for myself, am I the only one who is able to open it and take the cargo? (ie no ninja looting)

No. It works like a jetcan. Anyone can take from it.

Did that get changed since release?

CCP Lebowski wrote:
Fire'Marshal Bill wrote:
The tractor Beam unit, can it be opened by anyone? Pilot only? Corp? Fleet? Shooting grants suspect as mentioned, but is it steal-capable?

The Mobile Tractor Unit can only be opened by the owner, but can be killed by anyone. When killed it will drop a proportion of its loot.

Source


Seems you're correct.
I was under the impression that all structures other than the depot followed the same rules: no reinforce timer, etc, and since the mobile siphon doesn't protect your loot, I didn't see why the mobile tractor would.

It seems a bit silly that it should protect your loot, considering its massive amounts of HP. It makes jetcan mining obsolete if people can just mine into a tractor container now, with no risk of their ice/minerals being stolen.

Not a forum alt. 
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-12-03 14:57:40 UTC
Actually the MTU only holds 27500 m3, the same as one jet can. So there is a little bit of protection, but if you jetcan with more than 1, you're back in the same situation as before.
Joy-Tear Starseeker
Unity Ventures
#8 - 2013-12-03 19:05:56 UTC
Thank you all for the replies.

So as long as I empty and scoop the MTU, even if someone is in the vicinity shooting it, I get to keep the loot and not trigger agro?

Sounds great. :)

Joy
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#9 - 2013-12-03 23:49:26 UTC
The MTU dies very fast when you focus on it, even in a tech 1 cruiser.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Dan Seavey Allier
Seavy Acquisitions
#10 - 2013-12-04 06:04:02 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
The MTU dies very fast when you focus on it, even in a tech 1 cruiser.


I don't know about that........I took one to task in a Catalyst with auto cannons at very short range. It took me just under two minuets in an 0.5 system. That's a long two minuets staring at the overview waiting for some opportunist to capitalize on your suspect flag.
And the little bastard didn't drop a thing. Destroyed my loot pinata dreams.......sigh.....

Oh well......try & try again.


Dan (Google it) Seavey





Honey Never Sleeps. - John Russell
Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
#11 - 2013-12-04 11:51:46 UTC
I know that if you scoop it before emtying it, it leaves a jetcan with all the stuff in it. That jetcan could be ninja looted I suppose.

Stop the spamming, not the scamming!
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-12-04 13:50:56 UTC
Fille Balle wrote:
I know that if you scoop it before emtying it, it leaves a jetcan with all the stuff in it. That jetcan could be ninja looted I suppose.


Correct.

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club