EVE General Discussion

Part of the problem is finding a method for holding sov warfare which is not "biggest blob wins" or cram people into a system until the node crashes. The other part of the problem is that most of the space available is near worthless and doesn't provide the people that live in it better than level 4 mission income. I'm not talking about the alliance guys mining the moons, I'm talking average joe player who lives in some god awful -.2 system.

People hold metric shittons of space because crap truesec systems cannot really support more than a few players. This garbage space is used by hordes of renters and the few decent systems mixed in are kept by the sov holding alliance. The obvious fix for this would be an ihub upgrade that allows you to increase the truesec value of your space by -.1 per level, up to a maximum of -1.0. So after a period of time and with max upgrades even a crap -.2 system can become a decent -.7 which can support the activities of a decent number of pilots.

The anomalies that spawn in nullsec need to be fixed as well. There are like 20 different kinds and exactly 3 of them are ever run by anyone. Nothing that provides you with less than level 4 mission income should be spawning in nullsec. Some high level anoms that can be group run by fleets of BS or capitals providing higher levels of income than hisec incursions would be nice as well. It gives people a reason to fleet up, and puts more juicy targets out for the people looking for pvp, while providing enough reward to justify the risk.

Fixing sov warfare, the best idea I've heard so far is something faction warfare like with multiple sites that need to be plexed. These sites should range from gated to ungated, with the gated sites varying in the type of ship they will allow entry to. The gated sites should allow in a max number of total ships at any one time to prevent plex blobbing and once a system is under attack all types of cynos should be jammed to prevent easy mode titan bridge blobbing until a specified number of plexes have been taken by the attackers. The entire system needs to be designed around multiple different activities that need to be done by multiple different shiptypes and significant thought needs to go into how to prevent it from becoming the massive blobfest that we have right now.





This is probably currently true, but any "fix" for sov that doesn't create massive penalties/disincentives for having huge coalitions would be a failure before it was released. One of the major problems we have now is there is no reason not to form the largest possible group that you can. If there were economic, logistic, and strategic penalties associated with having a massive alliance/coalition then you wouldn't have the situation we have today. These would, of course, need to be structured in a way to prevent people from just breaking a massive alliance into a dozen smaller ones that just blue each other. The simple solution would be that a blue counts the same as a member towards the number of members you need where the penalties start to take effect.

A summary always understate complex things by virtue of summarizing, but I did write "considering efforts involved".
Perhaps I should have wrote it for all three main complaints, but it's really not a big thing.


I'd rather say, when in a supposedly sandbox game the space you take pain bettering will never be as good as for-casuals-dev-generated-content, then there is a problem with the health of the sandbox.

This.

For the last week, cloaky campers have be blanketing my Alliance's ratting space. They have gotten a few ratting ship kills. Not much ratting going on there right now (except for folks like me, but then again I don't mind ratting in a warp stabbed drone/fof missle ship lol). Op success right?

Well, not really, seems that have a much harder time camping us out of high sec and NPC null level 4 missions, low sec missions and FW and high sec incursions for some reason, all of which has some of my corp mates openly asking "why are we putting up null sec crap when we can make isk a lot easier in empire".

That is because the "problem" you describe it, does not exist, as null sec , even the very worst area, is vastly more lucrative than any place in high sec.

Prove I am wrong.

Which is why everyone has high sec alts, amirite?

What you missed if "can be" more lucative then high sec if:
1) you happen to catch a +6/10 sit
2) you have a fully upgraded system
3) you don't have cloakies camping every ratting system in the region
4) there aren't 6 roaming gangs floating around with interceptors
5) you aren't involved in a SOV war/strategic defnse

Because of all of those its a wash, I rather easily match what I make in a morning scanning and ratting in null sec in empire via basically level 4 missions. Without having to dock for interceptor gangs, avoid cloaky campers and hotdropers or any other gang that is floating around.



....and that small gang objective crap? Get the idea out of your head, because the existing political blocks can do small gangs as well, and we have a LOT more manpower to do it.

Okay.

LOL...incursions don't pay off with escalations and A type sand X type modules plus faction pirate BPC's.
You might want to check my employment history.

I was part of FCON (I apologize for that, though not my doing), and we lived in Pure Blind, parked right on the low sec pipe into it, while we had PL and Darkside gangs rolling down from the SoE station. Our space was terrible tru-sec. I made more money there, before NC folded, than I ever have made in incursions, or any other action in high sec.

Personally I like the image of nullsec being ISK poor and resource rich while highsec is ISK rich and resource poor. But to the point where highsec needs to buy imported resources if they want to build anything bigger than a shuttle and nullsec needs to export resources if they want to pay for their taxes and fees. Magnified up until the point where nullsec is throwing a tea party and highsec goes to nullsec to scrounge up resources while getting their asses kicked just like history classes.

How to do that without smashing the economy though.... ah, **** the economy, just smack it with a hammer, it'll roll with the punches.

(I am fully aware how unrealistic such a scenario is)

Before the NC folded.......so you mean before the Anom income nerf?