EVE General Discussion

Boohoo. You are already in nullsec while you do this, giving you access to all manner of other revenue streams, and that singular L4 agent will give substantially more LP/hour than anything in highsec.

Also: SoE ships are a bubble. It's not like this profitability will last forever. The market is self correcting.



Interesting. You must not have any friends or support, being in goonswarm and all.

Also, this still leaves the problem of mobile tractor units apparently not working in nullsec . Don't forget to file a bug report!

1. No there is only 1 lvl 4 combat agent in Osmon for SOE.
2. Stacking Combat missions hardly makes a difference, it might save you a couple of jumps, however the time to do said mission still matters.
3. SOE income is a very short lived thing due to a new release of ships designed for Low Security use.
4. Risk has been significantly increased due to the popularity providing a very easy hunting ground for Gankers.

So.... Osmon is not a magical font of all isk in EVE. It's certainly not better than Null Sec ratting when Null Sec is done right.
Also, oh no, High Sec can make an income! We must Nerf them till they are so poor they can't afford to do anything if they live in highsec! Because, really, that's what you are coming off like.
It's blatantly obvious you aren't interested in discussing actual figures and are just trying to scream anyone suggesting that High Sec doesn't need a nerf out of the thread. There is nothing wrong with High Sec players being able to turn a good income.

As I've said in a number of threads, all systems need more overall content, (Missions needing a redesign in my mind also). To allow for higher population density, and sure, Null needs buffs in certain areas. Buffing however does not = power creep. Power creep is when you buff something because something else is better. Not because something is poor. And in this case Null is poor in certain aspects and needs a significant buff to those.

Highsec is better than nullsec so...

I think 0.0 <-> highsec logistics can survive some pretty significant changes in that regard.

Long before Jump Freighters were introduced we were running full on escorted logistics caravans. These runs often ended in (or entailed en route) confrontations that were quite tense. It's a lot more difficult to keep a group of freighters alive than it is to kill them. It was often pretty enjoyable for all concerned, and a good source of conflict (or at least a prime opportunity for a show of force to the locals). It also encouraged the growth of local trade hubs.

I personally don't mind a long trip, if the odds are decent there will be action along the way.

However I also recognize that there are many who would get very upset if things went back to that all the time, and I understand why they would feel that way.

That's why I'm a fan of making it easier to interdict "easy" travel modes without taking them away completely. That way life is easy and profitable in times of peace, but can quickly become much more difficult and dangerous (but by no means impossible) thru a modest effort on the part of an adversary.

The key being it is just as easy for you to interdict their easy travel modes, and their ability to focus large fleets quickly and easily. This encourages smaller, faster moving groups on both sides... and provides more objectives and targets for smaller scale combat.

You know one now.

Smaller initial outlay, much less attention paid, nearly comparable income. (especially the LP)

I can multibox a trading/hauling/PI alt and a ninja salvager while missioning without any real strain on my attention to further increase my isk/hr.

It's more profitable than finding and running anoms while having to scout and watch my ass. Easier too, I am less likely to take a billion isk hit from losing my ship, since it's just about impossible to actually die in highsec now if you are awake.

I do this with 2, sometimes 3 wardecs active, and I have NEVER once died doing it. Almost as much isk, next to no risk.

1) I don't play in highsec.

2) One of these days I am going to make a goonswarm insult generator. It shouldn't take too many lines of code. The only ones I ever see are "pubbie" "sperglord" and "go biomass"

3) I don't understand the "secret" comment.

~citation needed~

Read the thread.

I could quote every single post in the thread as a citation, but that would just double the length of the thread and probably make the moderators angry.

Neither of which are in Osmon. Given your lack of ability to even use an agent finder, you apparently are utterly unqualified to talk about Lvl 4 missioning.