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Eve Down Under Bombshell: No Sov overhaul until at least Winter 2014

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Stahlregen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#241 - 2013-12-03 00:26:14 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
Promiscuous Female wrote:
did you miss the part where every major nullsec bloc had to create a gigantic rental empire to recover our income from the loss of the technetium gravy train or were you too busy sucking crokite to notice


I think you are hilariously misinformed.

The nerf hurt one particular alliance far more than anybody else, and it wasn't Goonswarm Blink.

Also: don't be absurd. The rental racketeering program is generally about laziness and double potential, more than anything else.

1) Charge people rent for a system.
2) Farm the same system with anonymous alts when they aren't online, or if you feel like a ****, even when they are online
3) Profit....Twice.

I don't know how anybody is stupid enough to get sucked into it, but with the population of EVE, there's plenty of suckers. Heck, scamming in Jita is still profitable from what I hear.


If "rental racketeering" is only about laziness and double potential why did the CFC only start to do it after their moon mining income was nerfed?

You keep making all these claims and accusations without evidence which in turn are disproved easily by people who actually do have evidence so in retaliation you just keep making more wild claims and accusations.

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. IT'S CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN' WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXY'S MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN.
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#242 - 2013-12-03 00:26:36 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
~Has no experience running a rental program,

~Only been in highsec corps/alliances,

~Claims to have better knowledge of economics than one of the top finance people in the CFC,

~Claims to have a better concept of history than the people that were in existence for it,

~Throws a ~Highsec Tantrum~ over discussing nerfing highsec.

Yeah you have nothing and are providing yet again another example of highsec people being completely unreasonable with their tantrums.


So you basically call me out on a bunch of random bullshit that is obviously untrue (unless you think this is my only account -- which would make you naive).

Not only that, you put it in italics, and bold.

And I am the one who is having a tantrum? Roll

Stay mad.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#243 - 2013-12-03 00:26:55 UTC
mynnna wrote:


I'd love to believe you played then but you're hiding behind a three day old alt so I don't really have any evidence.



ah i see we have digressed to the Ad hominem...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Deunan Tenephais
#244 - 2013-12-03 00:26:56 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Go ahead and don the tinfoil hat, its pretty much the only defense against nerfing highsec.

When I talked to you and some others to buff null sec all I got was a vague answer about power creep, while you recognized that null sec is so restricted in its options that it is utterly boring.
What high sec has anything to do with null being boring ?
Fun is an absolute for each people, if high sec is rendered less fun then it won't make null sec more fun by some magic trick, the game will only be less fun overall for any people.

So why wouldn't you prefer null sec to be buffed ?
Still the lame excuses about powercreep ? Against what ?
What PvE content will be trivialized by powercreep ?
PvE is really that difficult to overcome in Eve ?

Seriously, give one good reason why nerfing high sec, or low sec or WH should resolve the main problem, being that null sec is simply NOT FUN, what you yourself and some others admitted in this very thread.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#245 - 2013-12-03 00:30:37 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
~Has no experience running a rental program,

~Only been in highsec corps/alliances,

~Claims to have better knowledge of economics than one of the top finance people in the CFC,

~Claims to have a better concept of history than the people that were in existence for it,

~Throws a ~Highsec Tantrum~ over discussing nerfing highsec.

Yeah you have nothing and are providing yet again another example of highsec people being completely unreasonable with their tantrums.


So you basically call me out on a bunch of random bullshit that is obviously untrue (unless you think this is my only account -- which would make you naive).

Not only that, you put it in italics, and bold.

And I am the one who is having a tantrum? Roll

Stay mad.


Posting is an art that paints from a vast pallet.


You are having a ~Highsec Tantrum~ its okay we'll still be here when you finish. Tell you what here too I have more than one account and they live in highsec because they can make more isk there since highsec is far to good. Two can play at that dumb game.

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Stahlregen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#246 - 2013-12-03 00:31:48 UTC
Deunan Tenephais wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Go ahead and don the tinfoil hat, its pretty much the only defense against nerfing highsec.

When I talked to you and some others to buff null sec all I got was a vague answer about power creep, while you recognized that null sec is so restricted in its options that it is utterly boring.
What high sec has anything to do with null being boring ?
Fun is an absolute for each people, if high sec is rendered less fun then it won't make null sec more fun by some magic trick, the game will only be less fun overall for any people.

So why wouldn't you prefer null sec to be buffed ?
Still the lame excuses about powercreep ? Against what ?
What PvE content will be trivialized by powercreep ?
PvE is really that difficult to overcome in Eve ?

Seriously, give one good reason why nerfing high sec, or low sec or WH should resolve the main problem, being that null sec is simply NOT FUN, what you yourself and some others admitted in this very thread.


Where is this "NOT FUN" quantity coming from?
The suggestions i've seen made in regard to high sec would appear to in fact make it more interesting not less.

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. IT'S CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN' WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXY'S MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN.
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#247 - 2013-12-03 00:33:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinky Hops
La Nariz wrote:
You are having a ~Highsec Tantrum~ its okay we'll still be here when you finish. Tell you what here too I have more than one account and they live in highsec because they can make more isk there since highsec is far to good. Two can play at that dumb game.


I don't participate in highsec besides buying ships and selling loot from nullsec.

Where is this tantrum?

If you need advice on how to successfully make ISK while in nullsec, hit me up in game. I will give you free tips.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#248 - 2013-12-03 00:34:44 UTC
Deunan Tenephais wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Go ahead and don the tinfoil hat, its pretty much the only defense against nerfing highsec.

When I talked to you and some others to buff null sec all I got was a vague answer about power creep, while you recognized that null sec is so restricted in its options that it is utterly boring.
What high sec has anything to do with null being boring ?
Fun is an absolute for each people, if high sec is rendered less fun then it won't make null sec more fun by some magic trick, the game will only be less fun overall for any people.

So why wouldn't you prefer null sec to be buffed ?
Still the lame excuses about powercreep ? Against what ?
What PvE content will be trivialized by powercreep ?
PvE is really that difficult to overcome in Eve ?

Seriously, give one good reason why nerfing high sec, or low sec or WH should resolve the main problem, being that null sec is simply NOT FUN, what you yourself and some others admitted in this very thread.


So you don't understand power creep? That only buffing things leads to a sort of inflation. Its not that nullsec is restricted its more that it is handicapped. Picture a swimming event, highsec is given steroids and flippers while nullsec is strapped with 50kg weights.

Power creep isn't fun or entertaining and its hard to manage well, CCP has stated in the past that they don't want power creep as well. So nerfing highsec is the way to fix other sec status without power creep.

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Stahlregen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#249 - 2013-12-03 00:35:30 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
You are having a ~Highsec Tantrum~ its okay we'll still be here when you finish. Tell you what here too I have more than one account and they live in highsec because they can make more isk there since highsec is far to good. Two can play at that dumb game.


I don't participate in highsec besides buying ships and selling loot from nullsec.



Despite all evidence pointing to the contrary. We have this really handy response to these sorts of easily verifiable but ultimately and seemingly invariably disproved claims; ~citation needed~.

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. IT'S CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN' WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXY'S MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#250 - 2013-12-03 00:35:38 UTC  |  Edited by: La Nariz
Pinky Hops wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
You are having a ~Highsec Tantrum~ its okay we'll still be here when you finish. Tell you what here too I have more than one account and they live in highsec because they can make more isk there since highsec is far to good. Two can play at that dumb game.


I don't participate in highsec besides buying ships and selling loot from nullsec.

Where is this tantrum?

If you need advice on how to successfully make ISK while in nullsec, hit me up in game. I will give you free tips.


Your still throwing your ~Highsec Tantrum~ we'll tell you when you've stopped.

I still have an alt account that lives in highsec because it makes more isk their than your nullsec alt will ever make in nullsec. Highsec is too good time to nerf highsec.

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Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#251 - 2013-12-03 00:36:05 UTC
Stahlregen wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
You are having a ~Highsec Tantrum~ its okay we'll still be here when you finish. Tell you what here too I have more than one account and they live in highsec because they can make more isk there since highsec is far to good. Two can play at that dumb game.


I don't participate in highsec besides buying ships and selling loot from nullsec.



Despite all evidence pointing to the contrary. We have this really handy response to these sorts of easily verifiable but ultimately and seemingly invariably disproved claims; ~citation needed~.


What do you want me to do, post screenshots of my wallet history?
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#252 - 2013-12-03 00:36:50 UTC
Last I checked, the battle between highsec and nullsec only exists in peoples imagination. Could be wrong tough.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#253 - 2013-12-03 00:36:55 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
You are having a ~Highsec Tantrum~ its okay we'll still be here when you finish. Tell you what here too I have more than one account and they live in highsec because they can make more isk there since highsec is far to good. Two can play at that dumb game.


I don't participate in highsec besides buying ships and selling loot from nullsec.

Where is this tantrum?

If you need advice on how to successfully make ISK while in nullsec, hit me up in game. I will give you free tips.

"all evidence may point to me being a highsec pubbie, and my posting is indistinguishable from that of a highsec pubbie, but i say im not. checkmate"

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#254 - 2013-12-03 00:37:00 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
You are having a ~Highsec Tantrum~ its okay we'll still be here when you finish. Tell you what here too I have more than one account and they live in highsec because they can make more isk there since highsec is far to good. Two can play at that dumb game.


I don't participate in highsec besides buying ships and selling loot from nullsec.

Where is this tantrum?

If you need advice on how to successfully make ISK while in nullsec, hit me up in game. I will give you free tips.


I still have an alt account that lives in highsec because it makes more isk their than your nullsec alt will ever make in nullsec. Highsec is too good time to nerf highsec.


Again, I will give you free tips on how to make ISK in nullsec.

Hit me up in game. After the first hour though, it will cost you 200m/hour in consultation fees.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#255 - 2013-12-03 00:37:49 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:
Stahlregen wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
You are having a ~Highsec Tantrum~ its okay we'll still be here when you finish. Tell you what here too I have more than one account and they live in highsec because they can make more isk there since highsec is far to good. Two can play at that dumb game.


I don't participate in highsec besides buying ships and selling loot from nullsec.



Despite all evidence pointing to the contrary. We have this really handy response to these sorts of easily verifiable but ultimately and seemingly invariably disproved claims; ~citation needed~.


What do you want me to do, post screenshots of my wallet history?


Full API or bust.

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Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#256 - 2013-12-03 00:38:25 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
You are having a ~Highsec Tantrum~ its okay we'll still be here when you finish. Tell you what here too I have more than one account and they live in highsec because they can make more isk there since highsec is far to good. Two can play at that dumb game.


I don't participate in highsec besides buying ships and selling loot from nullsec.

Where is this tantrum?

If you need advice on how to successfully make ISK while in nullsec, hit me up in game. I will give you free tips.

"all evidence may point to me being a highsec pubbie, and my posting is indistinguishable from that of a highsec pubbie, but i say im not. checkmate"


The truly ironic part of this is that I am currently in Goonswarm space. Pirate

I guess I should be paying rent. Oh wait - **** that!

LolCool
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
#257 - 2013-12-03 00:38:54 UTC
Pinky Hops wrote:


Again, I will give you free tips on how to make ISK in nullsec.

Hit me up in game. After the first hour though, it will cost you 200m/hour in consultation fees.

here is a primer on how to make isk in nullsec

step one: conquer a system
step B) rent system

money occurs as if by magic
Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#258 - 2013-12-03 00:39:54 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Full API or bust.


You first.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#259 - 2013-12-03 00:41:44 UTC  |  Edited by: La Nariz
Pinky Hops wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Full API or bust.


You first.


I'm not the one making the wild claims, you are.

~Has no experience running a rental program,

~Only been in highsec corps/alliances,

~Claims to have better knowledge of economics than one of the top finance people in the CFC,

~Claims to have a better concept of history than the people that were in existence for it,

~Throws a ~Highsec Tantrum~ over discussing nerfing highsec.

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Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#260 - 2013-12-03 00:42:46 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Pinky Hops wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Full API or bust.


You first.


I'm not the one making the wild claims, you are.


You heard it here first folks -- living in nullsec and making isk is a wild claim!!! Shocked

******* wild.