EVE General Discussion

tl;dr: keep your sextants shelved.

First off: I like the new nebulae - definitely a visual improvement over the old ones and they add some flavour to the different regions. Transitions between regions are a bit harsh at times, but yeah - there had to be some compromise between download size and eye-candy...

One thing that is a bit of a letdown however is the fact that that gate location/orientation within a system does not relate to eve's new 'geography' at all.

E.g. I loaded up a char on sisi who was located in Orvolle. Nice! I spot a cloud ring in the distance - now given actual system orientation on the map, I would head towards Osmeden if I wanted to get there, but aligning there, I see that osmeden is the exact opposite way.

Knowing the region a bit, I know that in order to get to cloud ring, I would actually fly to Oulley, which would have me face towards black rise - now I don't really know what black rise looks like or which phenomenon I would see looking towards that direction, but actually flying to cloud ring, I can confirm that the direction on the 3d starmap doesn't match with the location of phenomena at all.

Guess there's no easy workaround for this as locations of stargates would have to be redone in every system - it's also okay with the lore, as noone said a stargate leading to a certain location has to be located in the direction of where it is leading within the solar system it originates from.

Anyway - if you were hoping to spot the nebulae of Domain in the distance and hoped to get there by heading that direction, don't be disappointed...

i agree... if you advertise something like "you will have feeling of where you are in space" then do it that way... a "little" things can kill all the immersion that great changes like this can do...


p.s.
if you are going to give us some better star map (like that one in DUST) can you make regions more apart from each other so that we have feeling of regions on map too... so that this transitions from one nebulae to next have more cartographic meaning?
and make jump-gates that jump between regions bigger (better)... just for the feeling of distance...

Yep, it's a minor thing, but I too felt that bit of disappointment... there is no way to "navigate" towards a certain feature just by jumping through the gate in the same direction.

Also maybe it's my computer, but now planets just look like featureless plastic beach balls against the background...

But OTOH now regions have a disctint flavor. Now, "going back to the golden skies of Amarr home" has got a real meaning. Domain's skies are like... wow.

Log in to Sisi, undock, zoom all the way out, press Ctrlf+F9, and look around. When was the last time you noticed how BEAUTIFUL is EVE?

(And the new shadows... jumped through an Amarr gate, and saw how the spires cast their shadows on the stargate's body... I was impressed)

One thing that I noticed too is that there are sometimes "arms" of a region extending into another region so flying from Genesis Region toward Dodixie I go from Genesis > Everyshore > Genesis > Everyshore at one point. Kind of jarring that the system changed dramatically back to the Genesis backdrop even though technically I should have been getting closer to Dodixie.

Though maybe not. I didn't look at the route in the 3D map because opening the map crashed the client.

I still like the look of the new Nebulae even though someone else who was in system with me described them as looking like big monsters that had been pinned to the walls.

Rotating stargates/backgrouunds could be nice for region border ones, not for the ones that link systems inside the same region.

Transition between regions at time does not make much sense, but the reason is not related to the granularity, but to the really random shape of the regions.

For that reason, basing the choice of the backdrop on the region is not, in my opinion.

Take Aridia for example: its southern systems should have a backdrop far more similar to Delve or Khanid, just because its southern systems are basically between Delve and Khanid. The central system of Aridia are in a different position and their backdrop should look different.

Gates don't have to align to a location. A motorway junction sometimes makes you drive the opposite way to the motorway before you get to the motorway itself. You see that the sign post to London is on the East side of the road, but London is on the West, are you going to complain to your governement that this makes driving unrealistic? Didn't think so.

tl/dr Stop being pedantic

They should just do the right thing and add the promised per-constellation skyboxes, even if they are an optional / on-demand download.

there's a point here


its sort of like planning a trip to the moon and debating the merits of leaving your house via the front door or the back door.

Then they are wrong, as you navigate to the stargate, not to the destination.

A better analogy is travelling to another country. You head towards the airport not to the country itself.

What?

I would have hoped/expected that it would all line up decently (can't make it fully happen without repositioning gates), the whole concept of backdrops that make sense is futile if you can't actually use it. At least tell me that cyno jumps (where you can see the jumping ship move in a direction) is using the "right" vector?

If they omitted both parts then the whole awesome lvl of the new nebulas dropped but a whole lot.