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Вопрос по операции на рынке.

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Eshkina Kotunya
New Methods of Doing Business
#1 - 2013-11-30 14:57:13 UTC
Сегодня всей корпорацией накопали 800 кусков Blue Ice и т.к. я пилотирую Obelisk продажа на мне. Зайдя на станцию, стандартно вышел в окно продажи и продал весь этот лед за 146 миллионов(примерно 184000 за кусок), какого же было наше удивление, когда на корпоративном счете появилась цифра 1 030 миллионов, вместо 2,5 миллиардов.. А в операциях висит, что комиссия брокера составила 1,2 миллиарда!! Это новая политика CCP, процент ставки брокера 1000% от стоимости товара? Прошу квалифицированных людей разъяснить эту ситуацию.
I LIKE IT
HIGH RISK INVESTMENT
#2 - 2013-11-30 15:22:50 UTC
I WAS JUST SAYING THE SAME THING TO MY WIFE THE OTHER DAY
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#3 - 2013-11-30 16:09:56 UTC
blblblbl

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
Thoraemond
Far Ranger
#4 - 2013-11-30 16:18:43 UTC
Eshkina Kotunya via Google Translate wrote:
Today, the entire corporation dug 800 pieces of Blue Ice and because I piloted Obelisk sale on me. Going to the station, went out the window as standard sale and sold all the ice for 146 million (approximately 184,000 per piece), what was our surprise when on the corporate account the digit 1 030 million, instead of the 2.5 billion .. And hanging in the operations that the broker's commission was $ 1.2 billion! This new policy of CCP, interest rates Broker 1000% of the purchase price? Ask qualified people to explain this situation.

No new policy. If you accidentally type too many digits in a price (for example 10 times or 1000 times the intended price) then the broker's fee will also have too many digits (for example 10 times or 1000 times normal).

Was the ice actually sold, or is it still list for sale, at a ridiculous high price?

• Graph re Market Order Broker Fees (Updated 2016-04-28) • Diagram re Skills for Remote Trading •
Eshkina Kotunya
New Methods of Doing Business
#5 - 2013-11-30 16:52:41 UTC
Yes, it is sold, and there are 146mil transfer to corps wallet. And right after this -1,2bil brokers commission.. Thats why it is so strange.. And there was right price for that ice, any time i sell it, i check.
Samroski
Middle-Earth
#6 - 2013-11-30 17:51:19 UTC
Вы не можете знать английский язык и играть Еву, но математика является обязательным требованием. Также: пили водку в то время как добыча может быть весело, но вы должны платить за это впоследствии.

Any colour you like.
Molic Blackbird
Orion Faction Industries
Orion Consortium
#7 - 2013-11-30 18:04:41 UTC
Eshkina Kotunya wrote:
Yes, it is sold, and there are 146mil transfer to corps wallet. And right after this -1,2bil brokers commission.. Thats why it is so strange.. And there was right price for that ice, any time i sell it, i check.



The Broker's fee is paid when the order is placed. If there is a 1.2b broker's fee after the sale, it would be for a different order. Sales tax is paid right after the sale. If that is what you are referring to, then something did go wrong.
Cavalira
Habemus
#8 - 2013-11-30 18:07:30 UTC
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Black Madness
Natural Born Builders
New Eden Gambling Alliance
#9 - 2013-11-30 18:11:20 UTC
Eshkina Kotunya wrote:

Yes...


...and was not english a good language to express this ?
flakeys
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-11-30 19:25:55 UTC
Eshkina Kotunya wrote:
Сегодня всей корпорацией накопали 800 кусков Blue Ice и т.к. я пилотирую Obelisk продажа на мне. Зайдя на станцию, стандартно вышел в окно продажи и продал весь этот лед за 146 миллионов(примерно 184000 за кусок), какого же было наше удивление, когда на корпоративном счете появилась цифра 1 030 миллионов, вместо 2,5 миллиардов.. А в операциях висит, что комиссия брокера составила 1,2 миллиарда!! Это новая политика CCP, процент ставки брокера 1000% от стоимости товара? Прошу квалифицированных людей разъяснить эту ситуацию.



Today, the entire corporation dug 800 pieces of Blue Ice and because I piloted Obelisk sale on me. Going to the station, went out the window as standard sale and sold all the ice for 146 million (approximately 184,000 per piece), what was our surprise when on the corporate account the digit 1 030 million, instead of the 2.5 billion .. And hanging in the operations that the broker's commission was $ 1.2 billion! This new policy of CCP, interest rates Broker 1000% of the purchase price? Ask qualified people to explain this situation.



google translate's a bit rough but readable Blink

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Thoraemond
Far Ranger
#11 - 2013-11-30 23:09:09 UTC
flakeys wrote:
google translate's a bit rough but readable

I agree.


Molic Blackbird wrote:
The Broker's fee is paid when the order is placed. If there is a 1.2b broker's fee after the sale, it would be for a different order. Sales tax is paid right after the sale. If that is what you are referring to, then something did go wrong.

Seems right. For others who might want more explanation:

At the time you submit any Sell Order with a duration longer than 'Immediate' using the Advanced dialog box, you are charged the Market Order Broker Fee (labelled, in English, in my Wallet Journal as 'Brokers Fee' [sic]). If you submit a Sell Order with a duration of 'Immediate' using the Advanced dialog box, or any Sell Order using the Simple dialog box, you are never charged a Broker Fee for that transaction.

When your sale actually occurs (whether it is immediate, or after your Sell Order sits up there for a while), you get the revenue from the sale (labelled 'Market Transaction' in my Wallet Journal), and then immediately pay Sales Tax (labelled 'Transaction Tax' my Wallet Journal).

Obviously it is a waste to set a duration longer than 'Immediate' when selling to a standing Buy Order, but I tested it out to help answer this question, and the items appeared in my Wallet Journal as (1) a debit of Broker's Fee paid, then (2) a credit of Market Transaction sales revenue, and then (3) a debit of Transaction Tax, in that order, all with the same transaction time.

So if you did a Simple sale, or an 'Immediate' sale, there was no Broker's Fee for that transaction, and such an entry in your Wallet Journal must be for a different transaction.

If you did an Advanced sale in which you set a duration longer than 'Immediate' (even if it executed immediately), the entries in your Wallet Journal should still show Broker's Fee then Market Transaction then Transaction Tax, so if the Broker's Fee is after the Market Transaction, again it ought to be for a different order.

• Graph re Market Order Broker Fees (Updated 2016-04-28) • Diagram re Skills for Remote Trading •
ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2013-12-01 00:45:56 UTC
Topics in Market Discussions should be posted in English. Topic locked.

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