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Support Ukrainian Euro revolution by signing this White House petition.

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2013-11-30 17:01:54 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Sentamon wrote:
AllUrBase wrote:
stuff


If people did this in the USA or Europe, the same thing would happen. So what exactly are we supporting besides a future war with Russia?

Petition to impose personal sanctions against allegedly corrupted president of Ukraine, his family, Ukrainian government. Some Ukrainian politics talk about treason yet there are no working legal mechanics for their talks to become actions within Ukraine itself. Hence the plea to US government by desperate Ukrainians.


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Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#42 - 2013-11-30 17:10:00 UTC
Do you seriously think people in Ukraine gives damn what White house thinks? They got bigger problems to handle then what President of United States of America might be thinking about them.

Personally US would be better of if they would stop mingling with foreign countries internal affairs. Would also reduce amount of people hating US and terrorism. Would be peace act of century i think.

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
Mystri
#43 - 2013-11-30 17:34:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Mystri
Ukrainian Government: You give $20 billion a year or we go Russia.

EU Taxpayers: Haha, aye jog on.

What's that word for someone who sells themselves to whomever offers the most cash?
Ari 2M
Fulminata XII
#44 - 2013-11-30 17:38:57 UTC
AllUrBase wrote:
Most of mentally healthy people of Ukraine got nothing common with those Mongol-Tatar successors, Ukraine history shown our country to be a legit european country far before Russia even been established.


That's why i won't sign the petition. Just because you can't do anything but insult a whole nation.
Othran
Route One
#45 - 2013-11-30 18:55:01 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Seriously, even if Salmond's ludicrous plans for independence do win out in the referendum that will not necessarily even be held.


You seem to have missed a few years matey, this is 2013, not 2007 and the date is set. Its happening.

Hope you had a good snooze Rip Lol
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#46 - 2013-11-30 19:24:02 UTC
So basically, the Ukrainian government doesn't want to submit its full API?

"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#47 - 2013-11-30 19:32:55 UTC
Galen Darksmith wrote:
So basically, the Ukrainian government doesn't want to submit its full API?


it's funny because he's fat.
LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#48 - 2013-11-30 19:38:30 UTC
humm so this thread is allowed to stay open but if i wanted to talk about socialism and stuff it would be locked (oh wait... maybe that is exactly what they are selling), is ccp biased or am I just stupid? I think not, I think your player base is probably more smarter than you imagine.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#49 - 2013-11-30 19:40:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
well to dip my toe in this politic garbage..... saying you are democratic/good/we and then spiting on another nation will not get you far in your we are better than them agenda....

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-11-30 19:43:08 UTC
LittleTerror wrote:
...is ccp biased or am I just stupid?


i don't think ccp is biased...

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Othran
Route One
#51 - 2013-11-30 19:46:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
Mystri wrote:
Ukrainian Government: You give $20 billion a year or we go Russia.

EU Taxpayers: Haha, aye jog on.

What's that word for someone who sells themselves to whomever offers the most cash?


$20bill is sod all - Spain has had more than €400bill in "structural funding" since they joined the EU. "Structural funding" = cash grants for those wondering. They ought to be a damn sight more grateful IMHO.

The EU is headed by Barroso who is a Maoist (oh wait he says he isn't now) and can be basically summarised as spread the money around until we're all as poor as each other.

All very nice when you're a recipient of the cash, not so great when your country has been paying billions every year for 40+ years without ever being asked if this is OK in that time. Add in mass immigration - the city I live in grew by 34% in the last decade and NONE of that increase was due to indigenous births - and is it any wonder people get sick of it all?

So I'm sorry that Ukraine isn't able to sort things out - I would MUCH rather have had you join than the Balkan states (Romania/Bulgaria/Croatia/etc) - but that was your only chance and its gone. Once another wave of Eastern European immigration hits the rest of the EU this January then any further expansion east will be halted for a generation.

This is way way way OT, mods must all be on hols :P
Lord Khagrim
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2013-11-30 19:49:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Khagrim
Just give Russia our Crimea and you can go wherever you want
If you want to be cheap EU labor like Baltic States - you're welcome
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#53 - 2013-11-30 19:56:12 UTC
i'm pretty glad my parents moved out of Ukraine tbh Big smile

if it's not someone with their foot on our throats or apartment buildings collapsing or someone hoarding electricity/energy or a terrible airport safety record...it's something else to be happy to be separated from.
Lee Mcgee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-11-30 20:02:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Lee Mcgee
Ukraine should stay the hell out of Europe. EU and primarily the UK are getting enough poor people from eastern europe and we don't want anymore. Well done Putin.
Othran
Route One
#55 - 2013-11-30 20:12:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
Lee Mcgee wrote:
Ukraine should stay the hell out of Europe. EU and primarily the UK are getting enough poor people from eastern europe and we don't want anymore. Well done Putin.


The reason that happens is because we are one of two (IIRC) countries in the EU who have a non-contributory benefits system and you cannot discriminate based on country of birth. You are either an EU citizen or you are not. If you are then (with some delay) you get the money. Simple as that.

Amazed this is still open :)

Edit - I'd rather have Ukraine than some of the more recent accession countries but I can't see Russia accepting it. Not going down that rabbit hole of discussion though.....
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#56 - 2013-11-30 21:52:01 UTC
Wow.. Three pages and no moderation.

Must be out for the day. I'm thinking of some good threads to post now.

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CCP Falcon
#57 - 2013-11-30 21:58:21 UTC
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