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While you are vitrifying the ships consider this, CCP
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Alice Katsuko
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2011-11-05 07:10:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Alice Katsuko
Real-life navies haven't used human eyesight to spot ships for close to half a century, thanks to the magic of radar, so the color of a ship doesn't really matter in reality for most purposes, much less in EVE space. Besides which, space isn't actually "black," and if you were to make a perfectly non-reflective paint then your enemy would just look for the empty hole in the sky. If anything, paint schemes on EVE ships are more akin to uniforms identifying the pilot's allegiance -- keep in mind that the faction ships were designed originally for use by the originating faction's pilots, no doubt most faction ships are held by faction pilots rather than capsuleers, and the paint scheme serves as free advertising for the faction.

That said, real-life navies did use camo-like paint schemes. See the Wiki article on the subject as well. Part of the idea was to break-up the silhouette of the ship so that it would be difficult to visually ascertain its size and bearing. The same principle could be applied to ships in EVE.

Besides which, this is a game about imaginary spaceships that behave like bowling balls in a tub of oil. Why worry about realism?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#22 - 2011-11-05 14:56:45 UTC
Alice Katsuko wrote:
... If anything, paint schemes on EVE ships are more akin to uniforms identifying the pilot's allegiance -- ...


... and there are more distinctive and unique patterns that can be used which are not tied to half a hundred different armies.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Hungry Eyes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2011-11-05 14:59:43 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Please, no more camo ships in space.. You want to make "camo" ships make them pitch black. I don't think bright green against a black background is something one would call camouflage..

Besides it looks ugly. I think most of the people whose opinions you value have made it clear that gallente camo ships are ugly.


im bumping this because the community is more or less in a consensus regarding space camo: take it out please.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#24 - 2011-11-05 15:12:26 UTC
camo should give you 10% reduced signature radius in galente space.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Jenshae Chiroptera
#25 - 2011-11-05 16:10:29 UTC
We need a poll for those that like and dislike the camo paint. All those that say they like it, their e-mail address is automatically forwarded to a shrink from the yellow pages. Twisted

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#26 - 2011-11-05 16:11:56 UTC
Hungry Eyes wrote:
im bumping this because the community is more or less in a consensus regarding space camo: take it out please.
…not any more now that the Caldari have seen their new space camo. Twisted
Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
#27 - 2011-11-05 16:17:37 UTC
If you want camo in space CCP put a mirror finish on these ships!

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Swordfingers
The Swollen Horse Society
#28 - 2011-11-05 16:26:36 UTC
Why do people always come with the "camo doesn't help in space" argument. Nothing helps you cover your ship in space paint-wise. It's camo beacause camo is traditional for military and/or navy. If you don't like it, then fine, but don't make a habbit of using silly arguments.
Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2011-11-05 16:26:51 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Hungry Eyes wrote:
im bumping this because the community is more or less in a consensus regarding space camo: take it out please.
…not any more now that the Caldari have seen their new space camo. Twisted


Well we are in a consensus about the gallente camo.
Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2011-11-05 16:27:40 UTC
Swordfingers wrote:
Why do people always come with the "camo doesn't help in space" argument. Nothing helps you cover your ship in space paint-wise. It's camo beacause camo is traditional for military and/or navy. If you don't like it, then fine, but don't make a habbit of using silly arguments.


It's not a silly argument. The camouflage is ugly and since it doesn't give any benefit we would rather have the ships look like this.

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/graphics/ids/512/2139.jpg
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#31 - 2011-11-05 16:30:21 UTC
Max Von Sydow wrote:
Well we are in a consensus about the gallente camo.
Not that either.
Quote:
It's not a silly argument.
Yes it is. It tries to hide an argument of aesthetics behind a deeply flawed notion of functionality.
Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2011-11-05 16:37:44 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Max Von Sydow wrote:
Well we are in a consensus about the gallente camo.
Not that either.
Quote:
It's not a silly argument.
Yes it is. It tries to hide an argument of aesthetics behind a deeply flawed notion of functionality.


well the camo is both ugly and serves no function over a ship that looks like a pride parade I'd rather have ship that's aesthetically pleasing than a ship covered in snot for no better reason than it being military, and since it's the NAVY version it still doesn't make sense that it has forest camouflage.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#33 - 2011-11-05 16:42:51 UTC
Max Von Sydow wrote:
well the camo is both ugly and serves no function over a ship that looks like a pride parade I'd rather have ship that's aesthetically pleasing than a ship covered in snot for no better reason than it being military, and since it's the NAVY version it still doesn't make sense that it has forest camouflage.
Sure it does. That green sky over in Gallente space surely makes the sea take no the same tinge, and we have no idea what the history of the colour is.

As for ugly… meh, it's just camo. Nothing special or odd about it.
Deryk Kyeld
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2011-11-05 16:43:04 UTC
The CCP artist aren't going to reskin the Gal ship models just because of a few players.
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-11-05 17:55:22 UTC
Well theyve changed the skins on sis for the Gall navy ships. Made them a lot less green and a lot less tacky. Still got the camo pattern on certain panels but it doesnt look tacky at all
Alice Katsuko
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2011-11-05 17:57:30 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Alice Katsuko wrote:
... If anything, paint schemes on EVE ships are more akin to uniforms identifying the pilot's allegiance -- ...


... and there are more distinctive and unique patterns that can be used which are not tied to half a hundred different armies.


Of course, if CCP were to paint all Gallente ships Smurf-blue we clearly wouldn't see just as many, if not more folk complaining about blue "not being functional," "ugly," or what have you. The CCP art team decided long ago what color scheme the different navy and faction ships would have; some like it and some do not. If CCP were to change things around, just as many people would complain. For example, some used to complain that the Federation Navy Comet looked odd or silly; now that CCP changed it to be in line with other Gallente ships, just as many people are complaining that it no longer looks "distinct."

The new textures are quite nice. They may not please everyone, but judging by the number of folk still starting daily whine threads on this forum, that is impossible to achieve.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#37 - 2011-11-05 18:35:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Renan Ruivo
Tippia wrote:
Max Von Sydow wrote:
Well we are in a consensus about the gallente camo.
Not that either.
Quote:
It's not a silly argument.
Yes it is. It tries to hide an argument of aesthetics behind a deeply flawed notion of functionality.


Then it makes the argument easier.

Just remove cause 84.36% of the forumplayerbase thinks its fugly.

No, that is not a made up number.


You have camo navy gallente, camo navy caldari, camo navy minmattar and beautifully painted navy amarr.

Amarr know better, as we all know.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#38 - 2011-11-05 18:38:27 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Just remove cause 84.36% of the forumplayerbase thinks its fugly.

No, that is not a made up number.
Of course it is.
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2011-11-05 18:39:05 UTC
Space jungle camo is stupid
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#40 - 2011-11-05 18:39:30 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Just remove cause 84.36% of the forumplayerbase thinks its fugly.

No, that is not a made up number.
Of course it is.



roflmao i knew you would pick that up Big smile

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
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