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IF YOU AS THE CSM LET THAT HAPPEN THEN I VOTE NO CONFIDENCE IN YOU AND THE CURRENT CCP DEVS

Seriously, no. Just no. If people are not playing in H enough now, then work out why and fix that. Don't dumb the game down MORE.

Cynos in wormholes will ruin WH entirely. Ability to hatch a station in one? sure, with med facility, sure. Cynos? No. Just no, never, forget that or you may as well just delete WH space entirely.


LET US BE VERY CLEAR. MAKING EVE EASIER WILL NOT STOP STAR CITIZEN DEMOLISHING THE PLAYER BASE ON LAUNCH DAY. EVE WILL ONLY SURVIVE IF IT REMAINS SKILL-BASED STRATEGY GAME THAT IS BOTH UNFORGIVING OF MISTAKES AND IT MUST ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE MISTAKES

If I want to build a nyx in a wormhole and get it trapped there ... so be it. Allowing cynos in WH means the game is diminished, because there will be no risk to invading capital fleets. Goons (etc) will simply cyno in roqual with clones and a dread fleet, destroy and loot everything over a couple days, then move on to the next one with no risk of being trapped in the WH. Stopping people from splitting weapon types because it is 'bad' is also an example of this diminishing of the game - is it a mistake to mix missiles and turrets? Usually, but players should be allowed to make such mistakes.

Conceptually this is the same design element as in a RPG where putting on metal armour stops a mage casting magic. The WoW 'babying' approach is to make it so mages cannot put on metal armour, at all. The sophisticated RPG approach is you can put on the armour, but you suffer the consequences. EVE Online is famous for consequences (such as forgetting to have enough fuel in your POS in a WH) - but it must also continue to allow players to make mistakes. If it does not, it will doom itself.

Oh while we are at this ... sniper ships like Apocalypse need to be able to target and shoot out to 500 km, and should micro jump drive distance x50%/level. When speeds went up and up and up more, the 250 km hard limit on targeting failed to keep up. You can't change one aspect of a game like this and expect things designed 10 years ago to remain appropriate.

So CCP ... STOP TRYING TO MAKE THIS A FIRST PERSON PILOT GAME, IT IS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE. Star Citizen is, and is from the ground up. Making combat 'twitch' in EVE is just going to make the game look stupid - and admit it, that is the intent of the interceptor changes. I don't like instant, I like skill being required, but there is such a thing as too far. And recent changes have gone too far, without considering other systems such as hard cap on targeting range. Don't break EVE because you know someone else is making something worthy of being very afraid of, as that won't work.

The way for EVE to survive is to be EVE Online - distinctive, strategic, chess in space where you can discover you lost many moves ago. Making it too twitchy or very gimmicky (orbital strikes anyone?) is just going to leave it a muddled mess that makes people want the "real" EVE back.

So CSM ... do your job. Stop cynos in WHs, before they really do ruin that.

Or get out. All quit, en masse, with an open letter to the developers saying you are done with the dumbing down of EVE and CCP's designers' increasingly desperate measures to counter the threat posed by a first person space game that seeks to have the depth of EVE Online. This game will be absolutely fine if it stays true to its core design philosophies. The only problem is that it hasn't done that over recent years, and is fast heading to being a theme park not a sandbox. That game model works too, only when a new ride opens in a shiny new theme park, the old park closes. To survive, add more sand, not shiny versions of the same old thing, and don't put cynos in WH to make null even more pointless.

I think you are too late - they have strayed so far from interesting gameplay now that the only thing to do is wait for Star Citizen.

The actual Star Citizen that will be released (eventually)

CSM wake up and save EVE from the instant WoW style pvp.

Want to change Eve to a larger sandbox? Simple (in theory) get rid of the gates, period. No more bubbles! For bath, anyway. I have to agree with the no cynos in WH's too.
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