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Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-11-27 14:16:39 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:
embrel wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.


shouldn't it be possible to bait and trap them?


Yep. sending some juicy bait to them and as soon as they've aggression timer CYNO in the rest of the gang



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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#22 - 2013-11-27 15:05:14 UTC
NearNihil wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Good luck popping probably brick-tanked TIIIs in 60 seconds minus however long it takes you to light a cyno, bridge, jump, and load grid.
Or have them become Criminal by sending in anything, really, and not trying to warp your pod out. Then decloak/warp in/jump in the tackle and enjoy them either dying to your gang or jumping into highsec and getting CONCORDOKKEN'd.


Please note only Criminals (pod killers) will get CONCORDOKKEN in this case. Suspects (ship killers) do not get shot by CONCORD when they enter hisec.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-11-27 15:18:45 UTC
Knights Armament wrote:
Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.


A couple things you are doing wrong I would say.

You need to wait for them to aggress and then they can't simply jump into high sec.

If they jump into high sec with a criminal flag then concord will be happy to remove them from their ship then.

Have a cyno black ops friend or a friend with a cyno friend so you can hot drop some hurt on them.
NearNihil
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
#24 - 2013-11-27 15:19:36 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
NearNihil wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Good luck popping probably brick-tanked TIIIs in 60 seconds minus however long it takes you to light a cyno, bridge, jump, and load grid.
Or have them become Criminal by sending in anything, really, and not trying to warp your pod out. Then decloak/warp in/jump in the tackle and enjoy them either dying to your gang or jumping into highsec and getting CONCORDOKKEN'd.
Please note only Criminals (pod killers) will get CONCORDOKKEN in this case. Suspects (ship killers) do not get shot by CONCORD when they enter hisec.
Hence the "not trying to warp your pod out" bit. I've looked at the killboards and they seem happy to pod people, so it shouldn't be difficult.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-11-27 15:21:22 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:
embrel wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.


shouldn't it be possible to bait and trap them?


Yep. sending some juicy bait to them and as soon as they've aggression timer warp in the rest of the gang


Brick tanked cyno faction battleship bait.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#26 - 2013-11-27 15:24:31 UTC
Just grief them the carebear way: Jump to and fro through their gatecamp with a blockade runner while posting screenshots of your billion ISK cargo hold and ever growing wallet in local.

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#27 - 2013-11-27 15:29:06 UTC
Knights Armament wrote:
Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.


camping a gate is not farming isk.

camping the same low-hi gate is pretty repeatable behavior and unless they're super-skittish and thus aren't actually killing anything, baiting and killing one of them should be a simple matter for a small gang that has a plan.

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Doomheim
#28 - 2013-11-27 16:17:49 UTC
Knights Armament wrote:
I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.


Uh-huh...Rolland CCP hates highsec and Goonswarm recruits in-game.
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-11-27 16:52:30 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
Villore to old man star is usually camped by 3 guys in tech 3s, anytime you try to fight them with equal force they just jump into villore and dock, they have 0 losses, and about 60 kills from doing this. I don't think its unfair to say that pirates have it easy when it comes to farming isk.



This is typical high-sec gameplay, made viable just by the specifics HS "protection" mechanics.

devs are lazy, push them out of theit comfort zone.
Lazy Eagle
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-11-27 19:08:04 UTC
Just move to the Amarr lowsec pockets, they are NEVER camped..... Pirate
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#31 - 2013-11-27 19:27:47 UTC
Let ships dial in system to system warp and remove dependency on gates and this playstyle is dead.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#32 - 2013-11-27 19:28:12 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Let ships dial in system to system warp and remove dependency on gates and this playstyle is dead.





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Winchester Steele
#33 - 2013-11-27 19:58:41 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Let ships dial in system to system warp and remove dependency on gates and this playstyle is dead.





Along with most other solo/small gang pvp.

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#34 - 2013-11-27 20:17:09 UTC
Get them aggressed, get point, then jump/bridge in friends to bump them off the gate. Jam and scan res damp, proceed with slaughter.
Tydeth Gilitae
Magewright Artificers
#35 - 2013-11-27 20:49:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tydeth Gilitae
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Let ships dial in system to system warp and remove dependency on gates and this playstyle is dead.


If you don't calculate the jump to lightspeed correctly, you could end up inside a star. Boom. P

And that's after flying for months/years to the multi-lightyears-apart system you're trying to reach with the warp drive's limited FTL capability.
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