Ships & Modules

I never quite understood why people are anal retentive about the class of a weapon system and comparing them only to weapons of the same class.

I feel that it is perfectly fine to compare across size classes if you are simply trying to illustrate certain common aspects (in this case, tracking). Granted... there are other factors that come into play... but I was merely pointing out the the absurdly high tracking Bererker II drones have with the VNI.


Actually... the signature resolution of Heavy Drones is 125m... the same for a medium turret (I'm looking at the in-game info window right now).

You are right in that a Heavy Drones will never apply their full DPS against a Frigate (I never said they would), but combined with the very high tracking they have and the relatively small amount of HP a frigate generally has a well-skilled and bonused heavy drone WILL hurt.


Depends on what the target is.

As was mentioned above, you will have problems applying full DPS against frigates... but unless they are kiting you at high speeds (in which case, use Warrior IIs) they won't want to stick around at close range for too long.

When dealing with destroyers and larger ships the Heavy Drones will apply most of their damage... provided they can keep up (which Berserker IIs usually can against ships moving slower than 1900 m/sec).

So what is the advantage to use dual reps?

Dualrep allows you to keep fighting. All buffer fits will eventually reach 0, but if you use an active tank and can tank the incomming damage then you can go on as long as you got cap boosters for it. So in a solo situation you can manage to kill multiple ships.

I use EFT for that. Once you have made a fit in EFT you click the little triangle next to the "create new setup button" and chose "Copy to clipboard" then you just paste it whereever you want it. EFT can also import text based fits as well. Just select a fit that has been put out in the same format (like one of the ones I have posted) and then copy it. Then tab to EFT and it will come with a popup asking if you want to import that fit.

And regarding heavies and sentries. Sentries are great for longrange combat and skirmishing since there will be no travel time for them to apply their damage. So you can kite the enemy while still hammering them with sentries. And if you are a closerange ship and got the dronebay to spare (which a VNI doesn't) you can have a set of sentries to counter kiters. However sentries are not that good for closerange combat as tracking starts to become an issue. And the fact that they are stationary can sometimes be a huge PITA and you will often have to abandon a set of sentries because you have to reposition, which makes it vital to carry more than 1 full set.

Heavies deal more damage and doesn't have any problem applying it in a brawl as long as you got web and scram on your target. With the speed and tracking bonus of the VNI, the heavies become quite strong against any targets and they can even hit frigs once you got them tackled. However if you are against fast targets and you can't hardtackle them, then it is possible for them to kite your drones making you unable to apply damage.

So as a rule of thumb: Heavies for brawling and Sentries for longrange. The VNI is great for brawling with heavies, but the lack of range bonus and the small dronebay makes it a bad sentry boat. On the other hand, the Ishtar can do both pretty well, but the VNI's slotlayout slightly favours it as a brawler compared to the ishtar.

If so, it seems all buffer fits should not be a first chose in any situation when we solo except that your enemy tends to destroy your cap?

yes actully i am really new to all pvp part of EVE. And I think I find most interest in solo and small gang pvp, not in large fleet fight.

Sentries are quite good if you manage to deploy them and then keep the fight some 20-40km away from those, brawling heavily scrammed/webbed targets. Garde's might be even more flexible, but curators surely aren't THAT good at tracking. (sentries act like large guns aswell)

But given they manage to force you away from your deployed sentries, you're looking quite bad in that fight. It's no issue for an ishtar, cause you can deploy garde's over here, curators over there, and just abandon+reconnect to closest if you're zooming around from one spot to another. VNI doesn't quite have the bay to support that, so wrongly deploying sentries and then not getting a fight right there you could handle, still being forced to leave grid - such a thing could ruin your evening.


That aside, my vote for solo goes to the before posted MAR+AAR-active VNI. Navy Cruisers are fast, active tanking doesn't slow you down, compared to a plate. All the reason needed! (edit: fit was double-MAR, this is obviously *to taste* :P)