Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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I still think people are over estimating the webs. The example given of dreads blapping stuff with vindi webs is still entirely possible without a single web on field. Webs only increase the window of opportunity. All that's needed is someone not paying attention for a moment, burning 'away' at the wrong angle, or sometimes nothing more than a lucky roll of the probability dice, among other things. 60% webs are capable of achieving the same effect in practice, anyway. *Insert mathematically superior Argument of Justice.* *Discard it as irrelevant* For most cases the difference between multiple 60% webs and a few 90%'s doesn't mean much in practice, even if the Math's of Great Justice point to a whole 5% difference. Yup, there are some times it does, but most the time, if one of the dreads misses you, another won't, or if one hits you, it's all a moot point cause another one would have anyway, because usually there are more than 1 dread and more than 1 vindi.


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Answer me this.

Before this topic was made, there didn't exist a single topic about OMGOMGOMG 90% webs on the Vindicator is to strong. Why did this so suddenly get an issue after this topic was made?

Ahh that's right, you can just use the benefits of crying to CCP to nerf the webs on the Vindicator now as they are watching this topic because you are totally incapable of using your brain on how to counter 90% webs and how to fight a Vindicator.

The fact that no one have complained about this before this topic was made says that the 90% webs on the Vindicator are fine.

It's just better to cry to CCP then so we all can see EVE Online getting transformed into what's called Drake Online (what it will be in the end).

The issues around 90% webs in general and blap dreads/titans especially has been an ongoing balance discussion for over a year.

Just because you aren't aware of something, doesn't mean it's not happening. You weren't aware that webs are stacking penalised, doesn't mean they suddenly didn't stack...

To be fair to him, he was around and present in forums discussion when the hano nerf changed webs to 60%, and back then was announced that web stackign woudl be removed. Was somewhat later in a bit shady moment that the stack nerfed came back in the second nano nerf.

Funny thing is, despite all speculation of this thread I'm still unable to have a Vindicator buy order of less than 900kk filled.

This is also true. I, personally, will laugh gleefully flying 100mn OP cruisers and not worrying about ever getting significantly webbed. 100mn Vexors? tyvm

Reduce the web bonus to 7.5% and no one would fly the Daredevil or Vindicator. People would just fly T1 ships with dual webs instead.

Leave the Serpentis ships alone. They have a powerful bonus that makes them good. They are certainly not OP.

I am arguing for balance from the point of view of the overall game, not just as it affects either the ships I fly or fly against. I am aware this is a difficult concept for you to grasp.


And I haven't flown a tengu in a year or more, it was you who seemed to think that 100mn cruisers would suddenly run riot without 90% webs.

Why is CCP going looking for non issues when there are tons of known problems?

I was just asking, because it's pretty damn obvious that there in fact ISN'T any issues with the 90% webs on the Serpentis ships as i can't find any topics where peoples are complaining about that after the webbers was nerfed to 60%. If there had been issues with it, peoples would have complained about it ages ago. But so far, i haven't seen a single topic about it, except for this one ofc.

Or would you find some topics about this so you can back up your arguments instead?