Player Features and Ideas Discussion

CCP, now that you put the MWD on to make a good game Eve-n better, I request a definite answer from a guy with the DEV tag.
Will you fix the Cloakie afk tactic,YES/NO?
This is a request, not a proposal, so dont give me the (thread already exists) anwer

Of course My fellow Capsuleer!How did I forget !Your Char name compels me to say this:

-Inb4 The Cloakie recreants:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BOG4p1-H2Q

Now that this is over, back to the point,
CCP I am still here waiting.

Out of Game mechanics Tactic ( AFking) Vs No in game tactic to counter.Dont completely wipe it,I use cloakies, just nerf it a bit.

I would really love to answer this to you, but this discussion is going on for years as you will see if your search about AFk Cloaking Nerf.You will find lot of anwers there to your point, other good other bad.


This Thread is not about it


This thread is about CCPs opinion on the matter.Now that the company really looks like it wants to communicate with matters that oh so many years divide the community ( Supers, Sov Mechanics, Hybrids e.t.c.) it is an opportunity to see their opinion to this ,whithout everyone being on each others throat.If this is not the place to ask, i would really like someone to point me whom to contact.

They arent going to answer it here.

If they said "Yes we are going to address AFK cloaking" here at once it would become a bash CCP thread and conspiracy theories would fly like they are going to put logoff timers or some crap.

I expect to see it as a dev blog mere days before it appears on sisi. On my topic I had to go into detail on how I was only targeting the AFK aspect of cloaking and its incentive. CCP will have to do the same assuming they intend to hopefully address this.

Because there will be a small number who do little more than AFK cloak for their victories that will leave. For these there is no middle ground but their abuse of the cloak. That is the way it is. However addressing it will stop the slow but steady loss of subs as people give up as system after system fills up with AFK cloakies courtesy of the big alliances. However when they leave they will try to convince the "active cloakers" to leave with them in some protest. Likely through some crap lie that active cloaking will be seriously affected by my or others ideas.

AFK cloaking has too many incentive and has gone on FAR too long now and that has made it a major abuse tactic to stop. Just like the old risk free hisec ganking was (The direct profitable kind not the current market affect kind) So they cant just say yes/no.

why not afking in a system where a lot of enemies are?? Some of them will get tired and start ratting, thats the point you can grab them by his balls. Thats a good and valid tactic, space isnt yours.

Oh here it goes, the same 3 people whining about local and afk Cloaking.If they Lock the thread becausee they derail the matter i will simply create it again.The reasoN?


IT IS NOT TO DISCUSS THE PROS AND CONS.OF CLOAKIES
THIS THREAD IS A QUESTION OF WHAT CCP SAYS ABOUT THIS POLARIZNG ISSUE.

You are missing Robert.

Anyway. If you want an answer from the devs then either go to general and ask there, it is known to give more blue/red responces. Or file a petition, you might or might not get an answer.

F&I is a sort intelligence gathering tool for CCP. THey come here to look at ideas, maybe try a few internally, and if it works, see if it can be applied to the game. I also think that devs could get info on what the players think about certain subjects.

And. I feel it is good that devs generally dont respond in this subforum. Since those responces may be overabused like crazy.

This doesn't make any sense to me. If they're AFK, how are they griefing you? You think they're going to uncloak if you go ratting? How would they do that when they're AFK? How do you know if they're AFK? If you know they're AFK, what's stopping you from going ratting? If you don't know for certain if they're AFK, how can you claim that they're AFK? That implies that you know when they're there and when they're not, which itself implies that you would know when it's safe to rat and when it's not.

CCP's stance is: if you don't want to be found, fit a cloak. There are no afk logoff timers and never have been, so logically there's nothing wrong with becoming "unfindeable" and then afk'ing in CCP's eyes

What stops you from ratting/plexing/mining in another system, exactly?

Ghost posts like the one I quoted is why it is better to not even worry about asking atm. Some here seriously think that CCPs intentions are to remove local without replacing it with something exactly the same. (Somthing they want to do to replace the current chat system. Not make AFK cloaking even better and give the large alliances even more power to dictate terms)

CCP isn't going to give a simple thumbs up or down on this at this time. It may or may not happen for winter expansion or may not happen at all until CCP finally realizes that the big alliances are just going to use AFK cloakies against the smaller ones more and more and more and that it wont go away.

These topics are just magnets for the same faces that will fight against proposals to nerf their likely sole source of PVP until they day they unsub. To help it would be better to develop actual ideas to address it. And not half baked one paragraph ones either. Go HIGHLY detailed or go home.

And don't expect support for the lazy ass pets and renters. Even tho they get highly affected by AFK cloaking I can tell you from experience from my last corp that few will give a damn enough to actually post here or contribute ideas of their own. They will just "blame CCP" and unsub when they have had enough and not have a made a single post to indicate why.

I am slowly developing another idea topic when it comes to the current incentives to go AFK or inactive while cloaking. Stay tuned for it soon.