EVE General Discussion

Ive never used the NEX store, no


Im well dressed enough as I am thank you.


And your argument only sustains itself if I dont accept that PLEX is a great idea. Otherwise, Aurum is just really really expensive PLEX.

Yes you can buy ISK.

ISK without the brains to use it is worse than useless

I wouldnt mind paying for a feature where i could paint on right side of my hurricane hull outlines or a silhouette of a busty woman with good body proportions in a swiming suit. Ofc as long as the price is reasonable and the payment methods arnt a pain in the ass

If people hate RMT and microtransaction is not for some "ethical" reason. Is a matter of game echosyste.

PLEX are very different than a standard P2P/micotransaction system: when you use real money to buy a PLEX and then sell this PLEX on market for ISK those then ISKs are not created from nowhere, are produced by active gameplay, somoene (someone else, yes) ratted, missioned, traded, looted, mined to produce it. And are only transfered to you.

ISk earned from AUR and NEX store items share the same schema.


Microtransaction system is different: you pay real $$ and some goods (items, gold, consumable) are injected from nowhere in the game.

This is why the PLEX system is accepted by EVE players: does not "corrupt" the game echosystem.

As I've mentioned, we already have the word from Mr. Reid that the NeX store is going to be revamped. Of course, to assimilate this information you have to believe the marketing guy whose word you've already dismissed out of hand. We all have our crosses to bear.

That has nothing to do with a switch in EVE's fundamental business model. It's still not a question of EVE going F2P, or any ~grim reality~, more a question of finding a way to give EVE players some long-asked-for ability to individuate their avatars and their ships, and make some money doing it. With the V3 project over, the technology is there. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that one of Reid's tasks is to make sure that the NeX overhaul goes a lot more smoothly than its introduction did.

CCP has displayed a willingness to work with different payment models for different games. EVE, at age 10, is settled where it is and doing well--considerably better than CCP's F2P game is doing, I might add, although it's not fair to pin DUST514's underperformance on its payment structure. It's had some very basic gameplay issues to overcome as well.

plex is good. Vanity items is the line for me.

With battlefield 514 not doing so well and world of valkery offering nothing new to the pay to win model. I see ever declining need to invest in ccp.

With its niche market under attack from competition, it's time for ccp to either deliver or sit down as more directed space exploration games deliver.

If ccp can deliver better then the competition, it will survive. If not, I expect microtransactions. Till then. Please stop trying to get us to agree to pay more for something I'm already paying to access.

…and if you look through those quotes, you'll notice that I don't say anything about what is or isn't RMT, and that I'm responding to your ill-informed posts. Again, if F2P wasn't the topic, why did you bring it up?

So good work exposing your own confusion there.

So how about you stop trolling and dragging the whole thing off-topic, and instead start addressing the points people make?

Why? It just seems like just another case of you refusing to accept the facts when they don't agree with your hopes and dreams. All of the guys at CCP who are somehow connected to the business model and to selling EVE is telling you one thing, and you keep claiming something completely different without being able to offer anything to support it.

Why is that?

It would be acceptable to leave things as they are now. This has been spelled out to you for 10 pages now.

You can paint those on the model you get from the CCP webshop.. wait.. they're not actually in a hurry to pump life into that source of revenue either...

I had considered adding you to my ignore list and just being done with it, but I think you seem to fail to understand me in the least.

My 'hopes and dreams' are to head off another pile of stupidity. I've been around a long time now, and have a pretty good feel for the rhythm of CCP's fuckups. Rather than just sit back, and wait for the next one to come along, I figured that a proactive stance might be more productive than sitting around waiting for the forums to explode with manufactured rage again. They're non-statements and vague assertions lead me to look toward more RMT and micro-transactions as their next move.

Judging by some people's posts, I'm not the only one that smells this sea change coming. So, you can deny it all you like, we'll see which one of us makes more isk off it.



I'll point to an earlier post by someone else about how CCP has announced that the nex, our current microtranaction location, is gettign revamped. So, if it is changing, better to grab the bull by the horns than let it run one over.




One would imagine that depends entirely on one's play style. I can say that I've encountered former eve players in a variety of PvP mmos.

…aaaaand here it comes again: what do you have to support the claim that CCP is interested in changing EVE's business model? “A pretty good feel for the rhythm of CCP fuckups” does not cut it.

Even more astonishing is that it's exactly the strategy he has chosen to adopt in his argumentation.