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So i've picked up the relevant skills to make and maintain buy and sell orders in distant stations.

I'm just confused as to what works best from here. Is it better to:

1. Fly around collecting everything I've bought and sell it at a popular station hub or

2. Sell each item at the station it is in?

with number 2, is it better to sell that item at the same price as it is in a local hub or should I check the values at each individual station?

Please let me know if that doesn't make sense

Mr Veda

From my experience, you need a lot of patience for 2). EVE players are lazy. They don't like to travel around to buy that 5% cheaper item 3 jumps away and another one 2 jumps away. They rather move to a trade hub and do their one-stop shopping there.

1) works much better, just don't fly around and collect every single item, as Rhivre already pointed out. Selling at a trade hub ensures one crucial point for traders: it ensures liquidity.

There is that, but also it means you can be anywhere in the region, and place a buy order originating from anywhere else.

For example, I can be in perimeter sorting out my orders in jita, do 1 jump to Iyen-Oursta and set up buy orders in Dodixie

You are welcome.

There are several border systems like this.

Colelie is the border where you sit if you want to be able to hop between Dixie and Hek, Eystur (next door to hek) gives you access to Rens.

If you dont mind doing 5 jumps, you can get all 3 regions......Colelie gives you Dixie, you hop to Bei to see Hek, then fly to Eystur to see your orders in Rens.

Combining like this means for example, I can set orders in Jita, let them fill, then use Red Frog (other freight services are available) to shift it to Dixie for 8.5m for resale, all the time letting me manage both regions with minimal movement.

For a diagram illustrating the purpose of the trading skills for remote orders, see: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Thoraemond/eve-trading-skills-for-remote-orders-20101217.png.

Yep, I've been studying that diagram for a while. It's probably the best explanation for the skills that I've seen

1. Fly around collecting everything I've bought and sell it at a popular station hub or


Use the minimum order size if it something like minerals. This way a trip is either worth your time moving it, or paying someone else (preferable from my view) to do it for ya.

2. Sell each item at the station it is in?

Depends on what it is. If it is ships, you usually don't need to move them. if you do destroyers and frigs, you will at some point end up picking them up or paying someone to move them. Even at tycoon 5, there's not enough order available to deal with a region or two of frigs all over the place. Best avoided. Low sec and null frigs sell pretty well however.

Ammo - mission hubs, low sec/null sec entry points ... don't need to move those. Same can be said for scripts and the more commonly used modules. Odd ball odds and ends, you'll need a hub.

Minerals, PI, Moon goop - Hub works best but is not 100% true. Just keep in mind, not many people will go out of the way for your special sale of 100 trit you collected in NoOneCares system because you forgot to use a minimum size on your buy order.

As for price the further from the hub, and the more popular the item, the higher you can price it. If you're not at the hub, there is rarely a reason to price below the hub. Some regions are a bit odd though. Knowing the population distribution as it relates to the usefulness of the item will help in some of the more quirky regions.

I price readily portable things under hub price if I'm selling them some distance from a hub, unless there's a particular demand for the item in question in or near where it is. Usually by 20% of the price spread in the hub (so if the hub has it at 20m buy orders, 30m sell orders, I'll ask 28m)

That lets me appeal to bargain hunters that undervalue their time, as well as to people who happen to be close to my order. The former group is usually larger than the latter, and so my turnover increases.

For less portable items (bulky things like ship hulls, etc, and also items in dangerous space that are useful there, like warp scramblers or tech 2 ammo in Egghelende), I'll charge a premium over hub price.

This brings back memories. When I started Eve I moved from Caldari space to Minmitar as my friend who started with me was there. Autopiloted through Rancer to get there! My first tentative attempts at trade were at Hek, and that is when I figured out how to take advantage of the above.