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Laptop for multiple mining

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Caelestina
0.0 Massive Dynamic
Pandemic Horde
#21 - 2013-11-26 14:25:06 UTC
I run two clients on an i7 with 8gb RAM and 1GB dedicated video. It handles two clients pretty easily on medium settings.

Check at SAMs club or Costco if you have a membership to either. I got the aforementioned laptop for 800 instead of 1500 due to it being the shelf model. They will cut crazy deals like that all the time.


As for a computer more to your budget, I would worry about the processor and RAM first and foremost, and then worry about the video card. If you end up with a low resolution screen, the video card isn't going to need to be as powerful (you are still going to want some dedicated video though).

I would stay far away from Gateway, Compaq, Acer, Toshiba, and Sony. Having worked in a comp repair shop for 7 years, I saw nothing but problems with those, and in the case of ACER and Gateway, they were having issues within a year. (Granted the people using them were not the brightest individuals, but still.)
Haytrid
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-11-26 18:04:09 UTC
You can run Two clients on the A10 laptops no problem. I have one, and I do, they work amazing. You can find them for 300 to 500 all day. The "A" series laptops are true gems for 2nd machines for gamers. I own the Lenovo IdeaPad Z585, 6GB ram. 450 bucks. It also run GW2, WoT, PoE, the list goes on and on, no problem.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Ideapad-Z585-Quad-A10-4600M-2-3-3-2GHz-6GB-1TB-15-6-Win8-64-59345759-/200946586738?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item2ec9599472
Solaris233
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-11-26 23:33:51 UTC
Opie Callaghan wrote:
I'm sure your all tired of this subject, but I cannot find one that is up to date on this topic. All of the recommendations I have found are discontinued models. Please forgive me

I'm leaving the country for a few months and I am looking for the cheapest laptop capable of running my 2 accounts simultaneously for some fun mining while I'm abroad. Black friday is in a few days so maybe I can really score with the help of the Eve community.

Many thanks in advance



Where are you mining at and what ships do u use????
Opie Callaghan
Trinity Collective Co.
DammFam
#24 - 2013-11-27 01:26:29 UTC
Haytrid wrote:
You can run Two clients on the A10 laptops no problem. I have one, and I do, they work amazing. You can find them for 300 to 500 all day. The "A" series laptops are true gems for 2nd machines for gamers. I own the Lenovo IdeaPad Z585, 6GB ram. 450 bucks. It also run GW2, WoT, PoE, the list goes on and on, no problem.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Ideapad-Z585-Quad-A10-4600M-2-3-3-2GHz-6GB-1TB-15-6-Win8-64-59345759-/200946586738?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item2ec9599472


I am considering this, mainly because of the warranty, thanks. Does yours get really hot after extended periods of use?

Haytrid
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-11-28 14:21:14 UTC
Opie Callaghan wrote:


I am considering this, mainly because of the warranty, thanks. Does yours get really hot after extended periods of use?



It does not get excessively hot, runs great and stays pretty cool, I take it to LAN parties and will game for 12 hours straight no problem. The microphone is in a really annoying spot, you end up resting your left hand over it while typing so your always lifting your left hand off the keyboard to talk in vent, very bad design choice, I ended up pugging in an external mic for heavy vent necessary gaming sessions. The laptop is light and sleek though.

If you do go with this Lenovo, make sure you register it WITH Lenovo when you get it to start the warranty over, it's a software program that runs on initial start-up. If you don't you will lose several months of the warranty. Once you register it online, you'll get a e-mail confirmation of the registration and the official start date of the warranty.

You can't trick the system like the old days and "wait" to register then start the warranty. The laptop comes with a warranty that starts when "that ebay guy" buys it from Lenovo and starts ticking down and then "re-starts" once you register it, if you wait too long, you'll miss the window to register after he's sold it.

Good luck!
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#26 - 2013-11-28 14:44:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
Just to put in, the intel 4000 graphics seems to work pretty well with eve. I can play with graphics all up, but then the computer overheats pretty quickly so I only have textures and shadows to high. This is an ultraportable not a gaming computer, so the heat sink is minimal. With 2 clients in high performance works.

I have a zenbook prime, out of your budget I know, but the intel 4000 chip is in a lot of the cheaper models too, so you don't have to chase after the dedicated graphics card to play eve on a budget.

Also, make sure when you buy your computer it doesn't use windows RT.

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Opie Callaghan
Trinity Collective Co.
DammFam
#27 - 2013-11-29 16:23:29 UTC
So here is what I went with

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834312446

Lenovo IdeaPad U510

6GB DDR3 (Upgradeable to 8GB)
Intel Core i5-3337U 1.8GHz
1TB HDD+24GB SSD (just enough room on SSD for a game)
Intel HD Graphics 4000 (Video Memory is shared)

Thats the gist of its guts. I dear the touchpad is crap but I plan to use a mouse anyway

What do you folks think?
Ari 2M
Fulminata XII
#28 - 2013-11-29 21:11:34 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
An EVE client starts at 1GB and grows up to about 2 GB over time. So you need 4 GB for those 2 clients and at least 2 GB for the rest. You definitely do not want your cheap laptop to start swapping lots of data.


I wonder where did you get those numbers. I tried (about 2 months ago) and ran 3 eve clients on an old 2gb/winxp pc with no problems. Yes, it's a bit boring to wait at start (hdd bottleneck), but later all goes fine and smooth.
Opie Callaghan
Trinity Collective Co.
DammFam
#29 - 2013-11-29 22:08:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Opie Callaghan
So then I guess Its safe to say I should be fine with this laptop that I just bought. It looks like I will be testing its limits to seeing how I just bought 2 more accounts.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#30 - 2013-11-29 23:55:53 UTC
Opie Callaghan wrote:
Opie Callaghan wrote:
So here is what I went with

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834312446

Lenovo IdeaPad U510

6GB DDR3 (Upgradeable to 8GB)
Intel Core i5-3337U 1.8GHz
1TB HDD+24GB SSD (just enough room on SSD for a game)
Intel HD Graphics 4000 (Video Memory is shared)

Thats the gist of its guts. I dear the touchpad is crap but I plan to use a mouse anyway

What do you folks think?


So then I guess Its safe to say I should be fine with this laptop that I just bought? It looks like I will be testing its limits to seeing how I just bought 2 more accounts for a total of 4 o7. I hope it can at least handle them all on the lowest settings. Ill probably end up upgrading the RAM to 8GB before I leave for my trip, just to be safe


I've never run more than 2 clients, with only two accounts it would be difficult, so I can't say about running 7. However, due to space restraints I have several other gams running off a portable drive. So EQ2, Aion, AgeofWushu, Ageof Conan etc, are all on the usb drive. Load time can be long, but otherwise it's all good.

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Opie Callaghan
Trinity Collective Co.
DammFam
#31 - 2013-11-30 03:52:14 UTC
No I would only be running 4, at the most, but generally I hope this machine can handle 3
Blink
Opie Callaghan
Trinity Collective Co.
DammFam
#32 - 2013-12-02 04:03:49 UTC
Opie Callaghan wrote:
So here is what I went with

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834312446

Lenovo IdeaPad U510

6GB DDR3 (Upgradeable to 8GB)
Intel Core i5-3337U 1.8GHz
1TB HDD+24GB SSD (just enough room on SSD for a game)
Intel HD Graphics 4000 (Video Memory is shared)



Despite the reviews, what do you think? Can it handle 3 accounts at the same time without melting lol?
Olorin Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-12-03 16:47:27 UTC
You will have to turn the settings way down with the integrated graphics for 3 clients (depending on how you deal with FPS dips). With a OC'd 3930k, 16GB, and a GTX 580 3GB I have to start turning settings down after 3 clients to hold 60 FPS on all of them.

Also, keep in mind since the GPU is on-die there is going to be extra heat generated from the processor, this will put you into a throttled state quicker and possibly cause it to overheat and shutdown since that computer is not built with the expectation of running multiple 3d accelerated applications. With the IGPU get a cooling mat so the processor doesn't start throttling while you play. Another thing you should be aware of is that the GPU is going to be using your system RAM, with 3 clients open (again Max settings) I am sitting at 2.2GB of VRAM usage, this is going to cut into the RAM available to the OS. I'm guessing here but you should probably expect 768mb-1gb of RAM usage with lowest settings on 3 clients. Really you should get something with a dedicated card if you plan on running more than 2 clients. Sure, EVE is such a light weight game that you can probably get away with it but the experience is not going to be optimal.
Haytrid
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2013-12-03 17:10:26 UTC
Opie Callaghan wrote:
No I would only be running 4, at the most, but generally I hope this machine can handle 3
Blink


Are you done wasting our time yet? You started out by saying you only needed to run 2 clients, got some good recommendations.

Then you go buy the worlds *worst* integrated video HD4000, which is definitely non-gaming vid card. The I5 CPU is as fast as the A10 I linked you, the HD4000, is HALF the speed of the integrated A10 HD Radeon 7660G (ala passmark.com), and was cheaper than the one you bought.

Now you want to run Three to Four clients, and you still don't want discrete graphics?

Go away now please.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-12-03 18:48:36 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Opie Callaghan wrote:
What do you folks think of these specifications for a laptop ?

AMD A-Series A10-4600M(2.30GHz)
8GB Memory 750GB HDD
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
1366 x 768

I like that better than the aspire posted earlier. These days 8gb of ram is a must especially for chrome users. I don't know much about the AMD processor lineup, but the processor doesn't matter that much for gaming. The better video card will help with rendering multiple clients in windowed mode. Check the HDD speed on that (7200 rpm is your minimum) and also if it has an option to install an ssd. Having eve on an ssd will help with alt-tabbing between windows in full screen.

As for minimum amount of ram, think of it as 2GB per client + 2GB for system. So 4GB for 1 client, 6GB for 2 clients, 8GB for three clients, and so on.

As for the idea pad, that 24 gb ssd will not have room for the game. That's for the OS only, and you will not want to put any programs on it because it will risk slowing down boot times. 120gb SSD minimum if you're planning on installing any programs on it. You need to leave about 20% of the ssd's space free to avoid performance loss from my understanding. 120 - 120*.2 - 30 (OS), will leave you with 60 gb or so free. You *could* drop to a 60 gm, but that seems like its cutting it close.

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