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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#321 - 2013-11-27 20:12:07 UTC
Icarius wrote:

It is the expected feature? No



How isnt it?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#322 - 2013-11-27 20:56:22 UTC
Shadow Love wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Rhes wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
When I joined in 2003 there were no reinforcement timers


So the game should be exactly like it was in 2003? Your arguments keep getting more and more insane...

No I didn't say that. Timers however need to removed. Time to take off the training wheels and experience some of the negative aspects of holding massive amounts of space.


I'm a newb regarding null/sov matters so excuse my ignorance, but who exactly would be able to consistantly hold space if single players/small groups of players just rolled around knocking down structures of sleeping alliances?

Next you will want docking removed, with all of our ships going into deadspace and being scannable while we are logged off because you should be able to shoot us anytime, anywhere, any way you want... but mostly just when no one is around to defend themselves.

The alliances that recruit globally. Pretty simple. If your 35k man alliance can't hold sov in the low population hours they have an issue with recruitment. It's not something that needs timers to feck up the game for people who are actually online.

In a sandbox game if one of the kids leaves his sandcastle unprotected to go have dinner it shouldn't magically become invulnerable. It's no longer a sandbox in that situation.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#323 - 2013-11-27 21:01:49 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
In a sandbox game if one of the kids leaves his sandcastle unprotected to go have dinner it shouldn't magically become invulnerable.
It should if it creates a better gameplay experience, which it does.

Quote:
It's no longer a sandbox in that situation.
Such rules have pretty much no impact on the sandbox status. The rules are just as much a defining feature as the tools. It's a sandbox, not an amorphous pile.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#324 - 2013-11-27 21:27:12 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Icarius wrote:

It is the expected feature? No



How isnt it?


I too would like to know how a structure designed to allow fitting changes at the time and place of ones choice wasn't intended to allow fitting changes at the time and place of ones choice.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#325 - 2013-11-27 21:28:39 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
In a sandbox game if one of the kids leaves his sandcastle unprotected to go have dinner it shouldn't magically become invulnerable.
It should if it creates a better gameplay experience, which it does.

Quote:
It's no longer a sandbox in that situation.
Such rules have pretty much no impact on the sandbox status. The rules are just as much a defining feature as the tools. It's a sandbox, not an amorphous pile.

Bonobo's

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Rita Riddick
Doomheim
#326 - 2013-11-27 21:54:17 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Make friends. Work together.

SIGMA says, "You're an idiot".

Your Bio: "SIGMA SHALL FEED THE HUNGRY CLOTHE THE NAKED FREE THE OPPRESSED AND PUNISH THE WICKED"

You're a goon, you are the oppressor!!!

~The problem with Goonswarm, is that it's full of BoB/Goons/RvB~
Zurin Arctus
Trauma Ward
#327 - 2013-11-27 22:01:50 UTC
My god, who cares?

Heaven forbid a new feature require some additional effort or thinking on the part of players.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#328 - 2013-11-27 22:04:16 UTC
Rita Riddick wrote:
Rhes wrote:
Make friends. Work together.

SIGMA says, "You're an idiot".

Your Bio: "SIGMA SHALL FEED THE HUNGRY CLOTHE THE NAKED FREE THE OPPRESSED AND PUNISH THE WICKED"

You're a goon, you are the oppressor!!!


Sigma's just weird like that.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Ot3ma
#329 - 2013-11-27 22:28:41 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Icarius wrote:

It is the expected feature? No



How isnt it?


I too would like to know how a structure designed to allow fitting changes at the time and place of ones choice wasn't intended to allow fitting changes at the time and place of ones choice.


Imagine that! We are given a choice to use something that gives us options, options are good.
Mirima Thurander
#330 - 2013-11-27 22:30:32 UTC
moble deeps are now mandatory on all ratting carriers.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#331 - 2013-11-27 22:34:40 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
moble deeps are now mandatory on all ratting carriers.

Why not just get a second carrier.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#332 - 2013-11-27 22:39:53 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
moble deeps are now mandatory on all ratting carriers.

AFK cloaking and hot dropping are now mandatory in all ratting systems.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#333 - 2013-11-27 22:47:28 UTC
Have fun plexing all those accounts.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Marcus Caspius
#334 - 2013-11-27 22:48:58 UTC
Ganker Tears - best tears... Cool

Grammatical error and spelling mistakes are included for your entertainment!
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#335 - 2013-11-27 23:21:52 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Infinity Ziona wrote:

The alliances that recruit globally. Pretty simple. If your 35k man alliance can't hold sov in the low population hours they have an issue with recruitment. It's not something that needs timers to feck up the game for people who are actually online.

In a sandbox game if one of the kids leaves his sandcastle unprotected to go have dinner it shouldn't magically become invulnerable. It's no longer a sandbox in that situation.


The CFC has taken and defended plenty of timers outside US/EU timezones.

Removing timers simply removes the possibility of fights because it's simply unreasonable to expect a group to be able to react within a single siege cycle.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#336 - 2013-11-27 23:23:09 UTC
that's pretty funny actually.

There is no Bob.

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#337 - 2013-11-27 23:42:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Rhes wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
You don't care because... Timers lol

That's the whole point. Everything you eject and anchor in space is 100% protected from damage by timers. Of course you don't care. That's what's wrong with the timers.

You are precious. Allow me to quote one of your own posts back to you:

Infinity Ziona wrote:
My take on it is if you didn't like the mechanics when you joined you should STFU and leave. Not whine like little girls till the devs cave in and make it easy like your last game was

Why doesn't this apply to your whining about reinforcement timers?

When I joined in 2003


When you joined in 2003 you probably had more hair, less fat and a better smell. You also probably had a chance at getting a piece of calming poontang so 10 years later a small change in a video game wouldn't send you into a fit of rage...see things change.

Maybe take this chance to get a toupe, rent a fancy car and go look for some poor unsuspecting lady to knock up so she can't run away when she finds out the car is rented, the hair is fake and you get enraged by video games.

As some may recall, when I have previously had my private life speculatively and personally attacked I responded by posting my Myspace (yes I sadly used it back then), well this is 7 years later or so , I'm 40 now and I'll let you be the judge as to weather I'm fatter, need hair replacement or whether I'm still capable of picking up chicks.... smell wise, I use 1 million... I like it

Oh the bike was last years Christmas present to myself, its a 2013 HD Nightrod Special.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#338 - 2013-11-28 00:52:26 UTC
Man I felt silly having a MySpace 7 years ago, and I was in high school...

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#339 - 2013-11-28 00:57:38 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Man I felt silly having a MySpace 7 years ago, and I was in high school...

I actually liked it over facebook initially. Enjoyed pimping my myspace page.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#340 - 2013-11-28 01:15:00 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
This thread made me giggle.


Whats funnier is that the mobile depot didn't just appear out of thin air, CCP tested them and as soon as they hit the test server people we commenintg about how you could use them during combat. No one seemed to have a problem with it.

It's more of the same, people not paying attention when CCP says "this is coming" then being surprised when it gets here.