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Eko Fromtv Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation Likes received: 119	#61 - 2013-11-22 17:56:50 UTC 1 CCP Guard wrote: EVE is the space one right? It's the chat simulator with added graphics one. (Ice) Miner for life.

Jenn aSide

Soul Machines

The Initiative.

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#62 - 2013-11-22 17:58:33 UTC

Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

OK, fair point.
Why do I keep giving CCP money, or more importantly, my time?

Well, from the perspective of money, I have built up enough ISK and skills in game that I pay for my account through plex so no real life money changes hands between CCP and me each month. Yes, the point that SOMEONE is paying for this game every time they buy the plex that they in turn sell to me, is totally valid. But it is not my real world money.

Every time you pay with plex, you are helping sustain the need for plex. You are helping sustain the game. it doesn;t matter that you (and I) aren't paying with real life money, someone is and if it weren't for people like you and me buying plex, that wouldn't happen.

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As for my time I spend playing the game, which I actually do, and spend so much time on the forums, it is because I remember a different game once. Yes, the null sec cartels have always been there, and have been favoured by CCP (T2 BPO's to BoB seems like a distant memory now). But never have it been so industrialized and the cartel's intentions to control high sec been so blatant. Years ago this was a great game, and people could at least expect their game style to exist the next year.

There is the problem. Memoria praeteritorum bonorum ("We remember the good things of the past") . Does it ever occur to you that maybe it's your perception of the past that may be faulty?

I've seen so many people (mostly high sec types) say things like this time and again. "when i started, there was no suicide ganking". "Back in the day, you could be in a player corp and never get war-decced". "I remember a time when you could go to low sec and there were no gate camps" etc etc. It usually comes from people who are too trusting of their senses (because our senses have some limitations we tend to ignore).

Here's a great article about how this phenomenon plays out in real life.

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So with respect to that past game, I tilt at the windmills of the current CCP management and the goons, with the ever so faint hope that sanity may yet prevail at CCP and they radically change the course of Eve back towards a more neutral stance.

That stance most likely never existed. You just thought it did.

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And frankly, I could ask you the same question: why do you spend so much time on the forums attacking people who don't want to see CCP mutate Eve into the game you crave?

A fine example of projecting. EVE IS THE GAME I CRAVE, has been since 2007. I am not campaigning for it's change, nor am I asking for CCP to change. I think that if I don't like what EVE is or what CCP does, I'd vote with my time and money, but I can't imagine doing what you do, impotently sniping at them from the sidelines like you do.

I'm not attacking anyone when i point out that their desire to see the game changed to cater to them (rather than adapting and evolving themselves to fit the game, or truly adapting by leaving a game they fundamentally dislike). I defend the concept of EVE against people who would think "it would get so many more subs if................"

Jenn aSide

Soul Machines

The Initiative.

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#63 - 2013-11-22 18:08:06 UTC

Lady Areola Fappington wrote:

Ultimately, I think you like EVE in it's current incarnation. In a world of setting your own goals, you've set yours to be grrgewnz.

It's pretty common in human society. Some people need to be the hero, the "voice of the oppressed", the plucky rebel standing up to the man and injustice.

The problem with people like that is they are all talk and no action. If Dinsdale has spent a fraction of the time he spend "grrgewning" on organizing actual ingame resistance, VFK (The Z'ha'dum of EVE) would be flooded with High Sec mission fit Ravens and Domis just blowing everything up lol.

It's like that in real life, their are 60 year old hippes singing "When the revolution comes" while waiting for a social security check.

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Prince Kobol Likes received: 2,558	#64 - 2013-11-22 18:15:22 UTC The more important question is Do CCP realise how hated Sov Mechanics are by most people who have ever had to deal with them.

Dinsdale Pirannha

Pirannha Corp

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#65 - 2013-11-22 18:46:55 UTC

James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

Case in point. Read the Playboy article http://www.playboy.com/playground/view/vile-rat-virtual-world-of-eve-online that covers the biography of the goon killed in Libya. The article specifically mentions a former member of the CCP security team (also was a former goon) "reaching out" to the leader of the goons. People who have cut off relationships with one another don't "reach out" like that, unless they are still friends.

This just in: CCP aren't allowed to have friends.

Nice try being obtuse there.
The point that you are ignoring is that the human condition is you favour your friends.
It has always been that way, and does not look to change.

Have you even held a job before? Most people don't do things for their friends that could potentially put their jobs at risk.

Man, are you naive.

James Amril-Kesh

Viziam

Amarr Empire

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#66 - 2013-11-22 20:52:11 UTC

Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

This just in: CCP aren't allowed to have friends.

Nice try being obtuse there.
The point that you are ignoring is that the human condition is you favour your friends.
It has always been that way, and does not look to change.

Have you even held a job before? Most people don't do things for their friends that could potentially put their jobs at risk.

Man, are you naive.

Believe it or not there are plenty of people in this world with integrity.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory. 126,785
Alice Saki Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory. Likes received: 126,785	#67 - 2013-11-22 20:53:12 UTC 1 I heard they play but abandon their buddies on camped gates FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3,946
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack Likes received: 3,946	#68 - 2013-11-22 22:27:45 UTC 1 I can't believe the sheer amount of text written in this thread. I haven't read a single ******* word of it. You people talk too much, seriously. Oh god.

Marcus Isk

Federal Navy Academy

Gallente Federation

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#69 - 2013-11-23 01:54:33 UTC

Riot Girl wrote:

I can't believe the sheer amount of text written in this thread.

I haven't read a single ******* word of it. You people talk too much, seriously.

It's interesting on how the hole subject changed to my question.
However I see that they do play the game which is cool.
I wondered if I ever came across a CCP player not knowing
And destroying his ship or vise versa?

I guess I'll never know since they play as undercover alt.

Cool to think who knows and might never know...