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Global Warming News.

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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-11-22 04:51:14 UTC
We have not had any lately, so here is a warm dish:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/20/norwegian-army-goes-vegetarian-to-fight-global-warming/

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!

Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-11-22 05:15:49 UTC
Mutiny in 5...4...3... P

Also wont the extra ruffage induce more... *ahem* gaseous emissions?

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

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Angelique Duchemin
Team Evil
#3 - 2013-11-22 06:47:39 UTC
Quote:
Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, a U.S. physician, also said that the diet could have the added benefit of reducing heart disease and stroke among people. Esselstyn said people should avoid “any food that ever had a mother or a face.”



That sounds surprisingly un-doctory of him.

The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#4 - 2013-11-22 07:35:55 UTC
Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Quote:
Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, a U.S. physician, also said that the diet could have the added benefit of reducing heart disease and stroke among people. Esselstyn said people should avoid “any food that ever had a mother or a face.”



That sounds surprisingly un-doctory of him.


The reason why we are omnivorous is to spend an awful amount of energy and time figuring what we should not eat... neither others should. Roll

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#5 - 2013-11-22 10:20:48 UTC
What about cheese? It had a mother in some sense. Lol
Mudkest
Contagious Goat Labs
#6 - 2013-11-22 10:32:38 UTC
stupid headline, XKCD puts it nicely


not eating meat once a week does NOT make you a vegetarian, same way that putting on a womens dress once in a while does not make you a woman
Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-11-22 10:36:54 UTC
Norway has an army?
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#8 - 2013-11-22 20:04:53 UTC
I remember in 80s we fought against ozone holes - after billions spent to recreate freons industry it turned out holes are natural phenomenon and ozone regrow over time.

Now while we are fighting against another kid of Don Quixote-esque windmills ... I mean - global warming - I ask myself what will be the next humanity-wide experiment to extort more money from taxpayers? And when humanity will have enough intellect to call bullshit on obvious global scam campaigns?
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#9 - 2013-11-22 20:17:17 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
I remember in 80s we fought against ozone holes - after billions spent to recreate freons industry it turned out holes are natural phenomenon and ozone regrow over time.

Now while we are fighting against another kid of Don Quixote-esque windmills ... I mean - global warming - I ask myself what will be the next humanity-wide experiment to extort more money from taxpayers? And when humanity will have enough intellect to call bullshit on obvious global scam campaigns?


Natural causes? There's nothing natural with ozone destruction by CFL. CFL destroy ozone, CFL are forbidden, as CFL levels at the ozonosphere diminish (with a 20 years lag) then ozone levels slowly get back to normality.

And I won't even comment on global warming. You're in your right to believe what better suits you, but reality is what it is to anyone interested in facts and not propaganda from recycled tobacco advocates.

I mean, when the same people who used to say that tobacco smoke is not bad in behalf of their tobacco corporation clients, now they all say that global warming is not real, or in case it was real is not related to the activities of their clients the oil corporations, it makes a lot of sense to trust them... if that suits you.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#10 - 2013-11-22 20:33:05 UTC
Bad article.

But Climate Change (not Global Warming) is the issue, no matter what the cause.

The changes I've seen in 48 years are frankly astonishing and frightening.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2013-11-24 08:48:49 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Bad article.

But Climate Change (not Global Warming) is the issue, no matter what the cause.

The changes I've seen in 48 years are frankly astonishing and frightening.


The next 50 years are only going to get worse no matter what we do. The best we can manage is damage controlStraight
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#12 - 2013-11-24 08:57:14 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Bad article.

But Climate Change (not Global Warming) is the issue, no matter what the cause.

The changes I've seen in 48 years are frankly astonishing and frightening.


The next 50 years are only going to get worse no matter what we do. The best we can manage is damage controlStraight


...and prevention. This is not a natural disaster and thus we can have a saying on its development. At this point nothing is going to spare us the hardly earned dose of additional heat-feeded monsters like Haiyan/Yolanda, and we don't have the lesser clue on how to actually revert the warming, but we have a chance to cap it before it goes runaway.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2013-11-24 09:08:34 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:


...and prevention. This is not a natural disaster and thus we can have a saying on its development. At this point nothing is going to spare us the hardly earned dose of additional heat-feeded monsters like Haiyan/Yolanda, and we don't have the lesser clue on how to actually revert the warming, but we have a chance to cap it before it goes runaway.


Very soon we will lose any control we have. Once the lands above the tiger forest start to melt and the continental methane deposits collapse there will be nothing we can do. It wont be the first time Antarctica has been green but the speed at which it will happen is something new.

That said, I can see how filling a barracks with bean gas might help with the heating bill, just make sure none of them smoke in there...
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-11-24 09:40:18 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Bad article.

But Climate Change (not Global Warming) is the issue, no matter what the cause.

The changes I've seen in 48 years are frankly astonishing and frightening.


The next 50 years are only going to get worse no matter what we do. The best we can manage is damage controlStraight


...and prevention. This is not a natural disaster and thus we can have a saying on its development. At this point nothing is going to spare us the hardly earned dose of additional heat-feeded monsters like Haiyan/Yolanda, and we don't have the lesser clue on how to actually revert the warming, but we have a chance to cap it before it goes runaway.


I always wondered why, instead of reducing current and future CO2 emissions, there are no major efforts to remove parts of it from the atmosphere.
Like, bioengineered bacterias with chlorophyll on high altitude airships.
I like airships.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#15 - 2013-11-24 10:49:27 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Bad article.

But Climate Change (not Global Warming) is the issue, no matter what the cause.

The changes I've seen in 48 years are frankly astonishing and frightening.


The next 50 years are only going to get worse no matter what we do. The best we can manage is damage controlStraight


...and prevention. This is not a natural disaster and thus we can have a saying on its development. At this point nothing is going to spare us the hardly earned dose of additional heat-feeded monsters like Haiyan/Yolanda, and we don't have the lesser clue on how to actually revert the warming, but we have a chance to cap it before it goes runaway.


I always wondered why, instead of reducing current and future CO2 emissions, there are no major efforts to remove parts of it from the atmosphere.
Like, bioengineered bacterias with chlorophyll on high altitude airships.
I like airships.


Well, there's the issue of what do you do with it. Let's say you trade off CO2 in the air for a bunch of bacterias -what do you do with those billions of tons of bacterias? If you just let them die, the CO2 will return to the atmosphere.

The mechanical aspect of the matter is pretty simple: there's 150 millions years worth of underground sequestering of non-gaseous CO2 being released as gas into the atmosphere in a few over a hundred years. How do you return the genie to the bottle?

It's obvious that the right place for that CO2 is in a non-gaseous form and preferably back underground, but that takes litherally millions of years if we rely on biology and geology alone. To make things worst, sequestering that CO2 back takes an awful lot of energy (i mean, you need to concentrate something that's in the air, but at a ratio of 4 micrograms per kilogram) so all in all by sequestering it you are using way more energy than the energy released when you burned it.

What we need it's a mostly undestructable carbon compound that can be built without condensed energy, is biologically neutral and is usable for something as we've got to manufacture litherally billions of tons of it.

The magical answer is: photosynthesized plastic. But we're far from it at the moment, it doesn't even exists outside of our minds and a few laboratory experiences.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2013-11-24 10:53:11 UTC
Fun fact.

Most coalbeds were formed because for 50 million years there was nothing that could break down wood.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2013-11-24 12:20:53 UTC
Of course I can't find them atm, but one of the most telling images that demonstrate the magnitude is contrasting photos of the mountains in Glacier National Park taken now and in 1965, when I was born.

The 1965 pics look like snow capped mountains. Now, there is hardly anything white visible at all. They may even have to remove 'glacier' from the park name if it keeps up any longer.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#18 - 2013-11-25 16:03:48 UTC
Graygor wrote:
Mutiny in 5...4...3... P

Also wont the extra ruffage induce more... *ahem* gaseous emissions?

That's a very good point. Norwegian army is a methane-producing eco-terrorist!
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#19 - 2013-11-25 20:19:55 UTC
It't still too cold outside the window.