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Egravant Alduin

Ascendance Rising

Ascendance..

Likes received: 160

#1 - 2013-11-21 19:04:12 UTC

Hi guys,
I m training all basic skills for marauders and when I m gonna finish I should choose one marauder to train for.I m doing level 4 missions in republic fleet services mostly so I m dealing with angels,guristas,amarr etc...What ship you recommend me to train for since i have very good missile skills,mediocre projectile turret none of the other guns.I want the most effective isk/hour ship since I think golem isn't the one cause of slow cruises cycle times.Thank you.

Feel the wrath of the GECKO!

Tide Way Out Productions 3,040
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions Likes received: 3,040	#2 - 2013-11-21 19:10:40 UTC \| Edited by: Zhilia Mann 1 Vargur. You've got the selectable damage type, the minimal shield tank, the plethora of gank... yeah, just do that. Edit: holy crap, mission runners. You've made all Marauders pretty darn profitable to build. Good job. I guess the stand your ground module has at least done that for the game.

Perkone Caldari State 22
Ira Kin Mayaki Perkone Caldari State Likes received: 22	#3 - 2013-11-21 19:12:59 UTC Golem ftw. Selectable damage types Missiles always deal the same amount of damage so no need to worry for range Can tank enough for any mission [u]Eve Anime channel: Anime Arigatou[/u]

Thaddeus Eggeras

Urkrathos Corp

Likes received: 216

#4 - 2013-11-21 19:15:01 UTC

Golem - Dory

High -
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Bastion Mode I
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Salvager II
Small Tractor Beam II

Medium -
Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Target Painter II
Target Painter II

Low -
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Rig -
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Drones -
x5 Hobgoblin II
x5 Warrior II
x5 Salvage Drone I

Cargo -
x12800 Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Mobile Tractor Unit

1001 DPS
Able to hit anything within 118km
Will usually pop cruisers and frigates in one shot
Over 8mins of cap time
Mobile tractor unit for those long to reach wrecks
Tank is 900 plus every 3.2secs
Anything not T2 is because it is Meta 4 and does better then it's T2 brother, or because the bastion only has a I one version.
Fit cost way under 1.5bil

Never Back Down 146
hellcane Never Back Down Likes received: 146	#5 - 2013-11-21 19:26:48 UTC \| Edited by: hellcane ^ drop an invuln for an MWD(and stop counting drone DPS) and you have an almost perfect cruise setup


Thaddeus Eggeras Urkrathos Corp Likes received: 216	#6 - 2013-11-21 20:11:35 UTC You don't need a MWD with a ship able to hit 118km and a tractor that goes 125km. And you do count drone damage as I do use my drones on frigates within 15km. Perfect Gloem done and done

Federal Navy Academy 2,629
Batelle Federal Navy Academy Likes received: 2,629	#7 - 2013-11-21 20:14:37 UTC have people (finally) given up on using torp golems? "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.

hellcane

Never Back Down

Likes received: 146

#8 - 2013-11-21 20:27:03 UTC | Edited by: hellcane

Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:

You don't need a MWD with a ship able to hit 118km and a tractor that goes 125km. And you do count drone damage as I do use my drones on frigates within 15km. Perfect Gloem done and done

I guess going 100m/s while traveling 30km to the gate in say worlds collide is good.

Or

You take away the unnecessary tank and have the speed if/when you need it.

Adding drone DPS is just a way to inflate your #s. Nothing more. Just like mach EFT warriors adding sentry DPS

Aurellius Healey

Futon Dynamics

Likes received: 2

#9 - 2013-11-21 20:56:50 UTC

hellcane wrote:

Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:

You don't need a MWD with a ship able to hit 118km and a tractor that goes 125km. And you do count drone damage as I do use my drones on frigates within 15km. Perfect Gloem done and done

There's this cool new item called 'Mobile Depot' that takes the length of 1 bastion cycle to online and it allows you to refit in space. So just carry all possible fittings in your cargo and switch as needed. Making fitting tradeoffs in station is pointless now.


hellcane Never Back Down Likes received: 146	#10 - 2013-11-21 20:58:05 UTC \| Edited by: hellcane Just because a thing exists, doesn't mean you need to use it when there isn't a tradeoff by losing an invuln for a MWD.

Thaddeus Eggeras

Urkrathos Corp

Likes received: 216

#11 - 2013-11-21 21:20:17 UTC

There is also this cool thing called having ISK. And having more then one PvE ship. I pick between a Tengu, Rattlesnake and Golem depending on mission. And even the gate being 30km doesn't take that long, I know A.D.D. is rough but try to have patience just once. I know I know time = ISK, but as I don't make ISK doing missions (too slow) I do missions while I'm stuck in high sec from a clone jump OR to help others. To be honest I don't even salv, I just let others who want to do it do it, I know I'm terrible. But even if I did I won't put a MWD or MJD or AB on my Golem or RS, no need 30km really doesn't take long even slow boating and if it's a mission that that gates or etc is far then Tengu you are up. Best way is if the gate is 30km or so slow boat while fighting, when I get to gate bastion up, kill kill kill, bastion down and jump. Have options people, makes it more fun, and is always a good idea. No MWD on Golem or Rattlesnake, and just a AB on Tengu.

I Accidentally YourShip

Ronin ONE

Ronin Reloaded

Likes received: 207

#12 - 2013-11-21 21:41:24 UTC | Edited by: I Accidentally YourShip

Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:

Holy dicks this is so overtanked. Medium boosters are for lazys, L2cap control.

[Golem, Golemderp]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Bastion Module I
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

5m 27s of cap with a burst tank of 368, plenty enough to burn to where you need to and get into bastion if necessary. Bastion the tank pushes 983. You have enough cargo to use cap boosters for even the longest of missions.

The b-type LSB is only 250ish, slightly more than double the medium booster. If you can't somehow afford an additional 100m for a booster that performs much better with a cap booster then you probably shouldn't be flying a golem. The fit is still very cheap.

hellcane

Never Back Down

Likes received: 146

#13 - 2013-11-21 22:04:29 UTC

Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:

So....all you have left is attempts at personal attacks to support your opinion?


Thaddeus Eggeras Urkrathos Corp Likes received: 216	#14 - 2013-11-21 22:13:43 UTC First I will keep my large booster, so suck it! Second sorry for personal attacks, I'm trying to be funny and stuff and forgot it's hard through a computer, my bad. And if I ever meet any of you, you can kick me in the balls, promise. OH SQUIRREL!!!

hellcane

Never Back Down

Likes received: 146

#15 - 2013-11-21 22:17:41 UTC | Edited by: hellcane

Options are good, I just hate to put more than 500 tank on something because I used to tank the entire EA5 room with a 500 tank vargur. Plus, I still have my eyes on torp golem which IMO needs the MWD. Cruise golem can fire while slow boating something like WC and have everything dead by the time it hits the gate. Which makes the MWD definitely much less attractive.


Thaddeus Eggeras Urkrathos Corp Likes received: 216	#16 - 2013-11-21 22:20:03 UTC \| Edited by: Thaddeus Eggeras First off i'm 30 and deployed to Afgan, my MOS is 11B (Infantry) so what you said about being young isn't true, but is true on how old I act.. Point to you good sir. Second off, well I don't have a second off so point to you again. Well played good sir, well played!


hellcane Never Back Down Likes received: 146	#17 - 2013-11-21 22:25:06 UTC \| Edited by: hellcane Edited to keep from derailing thread


Thaddeus Eggeras Urkrathos Corp Likes received: 216	#18 - 2013-11-21 22:25:43 UTC God I wish I was drunk


hellcane Never Back Down Likes received: 146	#19 - 2013-11-21 22:26:43 UTC 30 minutes of work left. Gotta love paperwork days


Thaddeus Eggeras Urkrathos Corp Likes received: 216	#20 - 2013-11-21 22:32:09 UTC Not fair I work 12 hours to 14 hours everyday 7 days a week, only fix I get for EVE is EVE Gate and forums. Afgan it's 2013 get with the times geez

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