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Scared, Confused, Confident

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Cynthia Gallente
GERAS INDUSTRIES
#1 - 2011-11-04 16:01:46 UTC
"I traipse amongst the stars as though I'm a god.
The issues of mortal men don't apply to me anymore."

This is the mentality of we Capsuleers.

This brings us to an unknown place of knowledge.
We have reached the brink of consciousness.
This worries me deeply.
I fear the end is nigh.

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Vultirnus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-11-04 17:07:37 UTC
Do not mistaken your place in the heavens. We as capsuleers are blessed creatures, but we shall always pale in comparison to the Sefrim. Do not become complacent with your assumed immortality. A clone does not make you a god.

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Cynthia Gallente
GERAS INDUSTRIES
#3 - 2011-11-04 17:10:41 UTC
I see you understand what I am saying.
You must forgive me, as most of Amarr culture sickens me, I do not know who the Sefrim is.
Can you please enlighten me?

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Vultirnus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2011-11-04 17:22:56 UTC
*shuffling paper sounds*

I believe this is the best explanation I can offer.

Epitoth

1 Now it came to pass in the third day of the first month of the tenth year of the rule of emperor Amash-Akura that the midday deliberations were abruptly brought to a halt when the day darkened in the sky.
2 And the sun went black as night and birds fell from the sky and flowers shriveled in the field and people fell sick in the streets and in the houses.
3 And in this moment of terrible distress the skies opened with a loud shriek and angels, bright as the sun was black, descended down to earth and their beauty soothed all the people and the animals alike.
4 And when the angels touched the ground with their feet the earth shook violently and fire engulfed those daring too near the divinities. Their power being mighty and their presence potent the people were wise not to look too closely upon them.
5 The emperor came from his high seat with his retinue to meet with the angels outside the city walls. And lo and behold! The moment the emperor passed below the city gates the sun cleared and shone as brightly as ever before, all in the glory of the emperor and the heavenly angels that called upon him.
6 The angels spoke the language of God and called themselves sefrim: those that guard the high seats of heaven. God ordered them here to protect the emperor against all evils that ever beset him.
7 The sefrim offered unto the emperor a present from God as one brother to another: Ametat the Scepter and Avetat the Crown, showing the great pleasure God had in the earthly work of the emperor.
8 And thus the sefrim came to serve the illustrious Amash-Akura, to stay by his side during the day and guard his sleep during the night. A great house of white stone and marble was built for the sefrim to reside in and were tended by the best servants the empire had to offer.
9 For a hundred years while the sefrim watched over the empire no wars or epidemics or famines ruined the lands and the people were content and joyous.
10 From Istha in the north and Melekel in the south and Edras in the east and from Iphria in the west people came to pray before the holy sefrim and receive a blessing to take home to their families.
11 The sefrim stood tall and beautiful, clad in their white and amber robes, with masks of gold and silver to protect people from being struck dead by their angelic beauty.
12 And all this time the emperor Amash-Akura did not age one day and was as healthy and strong as the day he came of age. The Scepter gave him vigor and the Crown gave him acumen and his rule was wise and fair.
13 Then Molok the Deceiver sundered the lands and the people suffered floods and plagues conjured by him. Molok turned the people against the sefrim and people who once sang their praise now abhorred them.
14 The emperor saw that all was not good and summoned the sefrim and said unto them, The people are in great distress, what remedies doest thee have?
15 And the sefrim answered, My Lord, the land has split against thou, thou must make war upon thy enemies to reclaim what is justly thine.
16 And the emperor asked, Will thee aid us in this perilous endeavor?
17 But the sefrim answered, No my Lord, we are here only to guide and guard, it is forbidden to us to aggress upon any man.
18 Then be gone! The emperor said in anger, for his foes were formidable.
19 And the sefrim, not longer in the emperor’s favor returned to from whence they came that very day. And the moment they left the sun went black and people cried in anguish for this was an evil omen.
20 And that night God spake unto emperor Amash-Akura in his sleep, Thy folly is great, Amash-Akura, thou hast rejected those I sent to thee in thine hour of need. Thou must redeem thyself to me by thy own merits.
21 And next day Amash-Akura had aged all his days and his hair was white and his skin wrinkled. But his spirit was high and his will resolute. God had charged him to take back his empire.
22 For five years Amash-Akura battled his enemies, wielding the Scepter and the Crown, and triumphed in the end. The day after Molok the Deceiver was brought before him in chains and sacrificed on the altar of God; the emperor died in his bedchamber, his task fulfilled.
23 And that night the sky turned red and the people were again happy that God was content with them and the new emperor.
- The Scriptures, Chapter I of the Epitoth [2]

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Cynthia Gallente
GERAS INDUSTRIES
#5 - 2011-11-04 17:30:14 UTC
This only creates more questions, and solves none.
But from what I'm reading the Sefrim seem to be . . . joves?

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Vultirnus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2011-11-04 17:34:21 UTC
I believe they are some kind of angelic avatars of God's will.

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Cynthia Gallente
GERAS INDUSTRIES
#7 - 2011-11-04 17:36:37 UTC
How long did the darkness last for?
Are you guys sure it wasn't something like an eclipse of the star?

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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#8 - 2011-11-04 17:38:48 UTC
I do not understand where you are getting this idea that capsuleers are 'blessed creatures' from. A large chunk of my flight school training was devoted solely to the idea that, if I were not a soulless killing machine now, I certaintly would be one after my first death.

Capsuleers have always been more useful than accepted, in the Empire.
Vultirnus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2011-11-04 17:48:13 UTC
We are blessed by being the most powerful arm of God's will in the history of histories.

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Cynthia Gallente
GERAS INDUSTRIES
#10 - 2011-11-04 17:49:21 UTC
I think you are deeply mistaken.
We are the strongest hand AGAINST god's will.
(there is no god either)

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Edaine Numenor
Numenor Benevolent Holdings
#11 - 2011-11-05 22:15:49 UTC
Cynthia Gallente wrote:

The issues of mortal men don't apply to me anymore."

This is the mentality of we Capsuleers.



This need not be our mentality. Perhaps, instead, our mentality is that the issues of mortal men matter and apply to us even more than before, because now we have the tools and the power to serve and benefit ordinary humans more than before.

Maybe, just maybe, we are so gifted in order to serve, not be served.

Liberating slaves wherever, whenever, and however I can.

Kithrus
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#12 - 2011-11-05 23:27:05 UTC
Cynthia Gallente wrote:
I think you are deeply mistaken.
We are the strongest hand AGAINST god's will.
(there is no god either)


Then I brand thee Heretic, knock not on the door of God again.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-11-06 00:35:57 UTC
Kithrus wrote:
Cynthia Gallente wrote:
I think you are deeply mistaken.
We are the strongest hand AGAINST god's will.
(there is no god either)


Then I brand thee Heretic, knock not on the door of God again.


He has spoken! Roll

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#14 - 2011-11-06 03:30:52 UTC
What we have is a grander stage.
An opportunity to work greater designs than most common men.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2011-11-06 04:57:55 UTC
Ahh, I see it is time for this again.

I have said it before, and it appears I'll be repeating myself many times over in the years to come. We, as capsuleers, we are not gods, we are no more divine than any other man, woman, or child.

What we are, however, is more capable than the average man, woman, or child. As has already been said, we've moved on to a grander stage. A stage of greater scope than the average person, where we have the capacity to be agents of sudden change more often and more swiftly than nearly any human being before us. We, in a way, are very similar to the mariners of old who with the advantage afforded by knowledge of navigating by the stars were able to discover new lands, create trade opportunities, and yes in many cases, conquer the peoples they found. All because of an advantage stemming from being more capable than the person standing next to them.

To any pilots out there that think themselves gods or in some way transcendent compared to the masses, I have but one thing to say. The fundamental difference between a capsuleer and a "base liner" is we have the chance to learn from our fatal mistakes.

With that in mind I have only one thing to ask. Are you learning something each time you wake up in a clone vat, or are you wasting your still very human, and still very mortal life?
Cynthia Gallente
GERAS INDUSTRIES
#16 - 2011-11-06 06:14:25 UTC
Being as I don't remeber anything earlier than a month or so ago, I'd say yeah.
Yes, I'm learning something new each time I awaken.
Each time I realize something new about myself.
Something new about the universe...
Heretic am I? And thee a heathen.

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