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Insurance and pvp?
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Fighter Maurset
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-11-20 19:04:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Fighter Maurset
Now I do not want WoW pvp scenarios, where players have nothing to loose.
But would you do pvp (or more pvp) if the insurance was "better"...?

If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-11-20 19:13:01 UTC
me? no not really because I'd still lose pretty much every time
Samuel Moore Walton
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#3 - 2013-11-20 19:17:32 UTC
People don't PVP because it isn't harsh enough, 25% more harsh = 25% more PVP

If you want lots of PVP you need to add lots of Harsh.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#4 - 2013-11-20 19:24:03 UTC
Coming from someone whos Catalysts don't get insurance payouts for some reason, I can tell you that insurance payouts have very little sway on the amount of 'PvP' im involved in.


I also haven't insured a ship in years, don't fly what you cannot afford to lose.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2013-11-20 19:29:33 UTC
There was a time when insurance was "better."

It was so good in fact that people actually built and self destructed their own ships for PROFIT!

Todays Tech 1 insurance values are just barely under what it would take to be profitable like before.

And Tech 2, Faction, Tech 3, and Pirate insurance values were never meant to be profitable (as an added "penalty" for using a ship that has extra "edges").

How did you Veterans start?
Fighter Maurset
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-11-20 19:38:47 UTC
Personally I dont insure my ships. Because the modules cost more than the hull...

If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-11-20 19:43:52 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Coming from someone whos Catalysts don't get insurance payouts for some reason, I can tell you that insurance payouts have very little sway on the amount of 'PvP' im involved in.


I also haven't insured a ship in years, don't fly what you cannot afford to lose.



funny that i never get insurance payouts anymore but i die a LOT

http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/

destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Looking for Trouble
#8 - 2013-11-20 20:00:54 UTC
i still find it entertaining that platinum insurance pays out more on a super capital then it does on a titan, when a titan is alot more isk thne a supercapital Shocked
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#9 - 2013-11-20 20:10:05 UTC


I dont understand

What's wrong with the way it works now?

If it was "better", then insurance would be over the value of the item and that durn don' make no sense ya'll


Insurance for Towers though, giz some of that.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#10 - 2013-11-20 20:43:22 UTC
Nope. I would still spend as much time as I can in PvP, just as I do now.
Fighter Maurset
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-11-20 20:54:14 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:


I dont understand

What's wrong with the way it works now?

If it was "better", then insurance would be over the value of the item and that durn don' make no sense ya'll


Insurance for Towers though, giz some of that.


How do you make that statement add up?
Take for example a Mining Barge - Retriever:
Ship costs 25mill on market. Maximum payout is 6.187.709.00 isk
And adding modules does not affect the platinum cost or payout...

Am I missing some info here?

If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#12 - 2013-11-20 21:10:07 UTC
Fighter Maurset wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:


I dont understand

What's wrong with the way it works now?

If it was "better", then insurance would be over the value of the item and that durn don' make no sense ya'll


Insurance for Towers though, giz some of that.


How do you make that statement add up?
Take for example a Mining Barge - Retriever:
Ship costs 25mill on market. Maximum payout is 6.187.709.00 isk
And adding modules does not affect the platinum cost or payout...

Am I missing some info here?




Yes.

But Ill let you figure that out for yourself.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-11-20 21:25:09 UTC
Hell no.
Personally i think insurance should be removed from the game.

There is no Bob.

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-11-20 21:27:16 UTC
I haven't insured a ship in ages. Just doing my part to combat iskflation.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Fighter Maurset
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-11-20 21:37:51 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
[quote=Fighter Maurset][quote=Ramona McCandless]

Yes.

But Ill let you figure that out for yourself.



Nah... I think you are bluffing :o)

If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#16 - 2013-11-20 21:42:33 UTC
Fighter Maurset wrote:



Nah... I think you are bluffing :o)




I never bluff

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2013-11-20 21:59:44 UTC
At current prices I will be shelling out 8 billion to get a mega working with assault frig fleets.


Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-11-20 22:26:56 UTC
I find that when I'm deciding what to fly, I ignore the insurance payout when considering the cost of the ship. So it wouldn't affect me.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-11-20 22:33:30 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Coming from someone whos Catalysts don't get insurance payouts for some reason, I can tell you that insurance payouts have very little sway on the amount of 'PvP' im involved in.


I also haven't insured a ship in years, don't fly what you cannot afford to lose.



LOL ... yes we all know your insurance is void if you are suicide ganking :D There are other forms of PvP you know.
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#20 - 2013-11-20 22:36:20 UTC
I always forget about insurance anyway, w-space will do that to you.

wumbo
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